When George Lai of Portland, Oregon, took his toddler son to a pediatrician last summer for a checkup, the doctor noticed a little splinter in the child’s palm. “He must have gotten it between the front door and the car,” Lai later recalled, and the child wasn’t complaining. The doctor grabbed a pair of forceps — aka tweezers — and pulled out the splinter in “a second,” Lai said. That brief tug was transformed into a surgical billing code: Current Procedural Terminology (CPT) code 10120, “incision and removal of a foreign body, subcutaneous” — at a cost of $414.
They should sue the clinic for the child getting the splinter there. Let the clinic’s insurance company fight the health insurance company.
That’s genius, pit tweedle bitch against other tweedle bitch and see who is more annoying.
The headline is somewhat misleading. The doctor didn’t charge her, the clinic did. Doctors in general (at least in my experience) want to help. The problem is the hospitals and the insurance companies fucking people every chance they get. The people actually providing medical care aren’t the problem.
This is a good point. The Doc could have just put a one sentence in the kids chart without a second thought and that triggered a billing admin to code it for maximum stupidity.
Or simply chose the relevant code that the insurance companies usually won’t deny.
This is where healthcare practitioners and billing disconnect
As a healthcare practitioner you’re generally trained to use the most advantageous billing codes, or at least allude to procedures so that your billing staff can maximize them.
An example from mental health: I can bill code 90834 for a 16-52 minute psychotherapy session, or I can bill 90837 for 53+ minute. The reimbursement rates are sometimes wildly different ($75ish dollars vs $115ish dollars). So the typical 45 minute session gets padded by 8 minutes because by doing that I earn $40 dollars more per hour. Not nearly what this guy billed in a moment but it adds up quickly, especially for weekly sessions ($160/mo more is nothing to sneeze at)
But as a practitioner I don’t know what insurance you have. I don’t know where you’re at with your insurance. I don’t know what your situation is. And this can make all the difference
If you have a PPO plan my billing code doesn’t matter, you just pay your copay. If you have a high deductible and you’ve met your deductible you pay your coinsurance (usually 10-20%) so the difference is usually only a few dollars. But if you haven’t met your deductible? Now you’re paying the $40 difference out of pocket.
The rationalization from health care providers is that you should basically budget to meet your deductible, eg if you have health insurance with a $8,000 deductible you should budget at least that much for health spending each year. And to be fair this is how the insurance is supposed to work, but this is often poorly explained to people, many people who don’t have chronic illness don’t bother because they never reach their deductible, they’re frustrated that they’re paying several hundred dollars a pay in premiums and still expected to pay thousands more in deductibles and coinsurances, etc.
so then as a practitioner I’m put in an awkward spot: do I maximize billing to keep my practice making money or do I cut corners on billing to save clients the pain of their own insurance? It’s not my fault the system is setup in this way. Do I bill the people who have PPOs and met deductibles and give a break to those who haven’t met their deductibles? That’s not really fair and may also get me in trouble with insurance, especially in these times where insurance companies are starting to increasingly use AI nonsense to look for suspect billing patterns. Do I stop taking insurance altogether? That fucks over poor people, not an option.
Also fwiw you could argue this doctor could just not bill that code. Physical health bills more than mental health for sure because of multiple codes per visit, add on codes, etc and that’s a big part of why they make more money but also keep in mind those practices generally take way more money to run. My practice is just me doing everything, even when I have employees. I do scheduling (the other clinicians handle their own scheduling), I do billing, I do credentialing, I do IT, etc. I also have minimal overheads because I do telehealth only at this point.
generally the complexity involved with physical health means you’re at least hiring an office manager (~40-50k/yr) and billing support (~5-7% of earnings, or internal and another $40-50k/yr). And physical health for many specialties requires physical space, and a medical practice requires a decent amount of it. Commercial rentals are absurd and as soon as landlords realize you’re healthcare they fleece you because they realize it’s a pain in the ass for you to move.
It’s not my fault the system is setup in this way.
That sounds like “I’m just following orders.” to me.
Yeah, maybe, but it’s also a serious question that comes up in practice
Why should I personally subsidize your care because the system is bullshit? Why should the burden be placed on me? I already have a sliding scale for low income patients (that gives me no tax benefit whatsoever), I already write off thousands in bad debt rather than ruin people’s credit by sending them to debt collection (which is income I just don’t receive, to be clear).
When a fix isn’t in place, isn’t proposed, and isn’t coming, what do you propose I do? Just not bill people? Reduce my already kind of shitty income further?
For the record I make about 50-60k a year and have 100k in student loan debt. Also given the nature of my work I have no benefits whatsoever so with that salary I have to self fund health insurance, vision, dental, retirement, days off, etc.
So again I propose what is the solution here? I can’t work for free and at a certain income point the job no longer becomes feasible. I have to do what I can within this deeply flawed system to be able to provide care while still providing an income for myself because if I don’t do that I will starve to death. Thanks for comparing me to a nazi though
The wart story in the article is even worse than the splinter one. Ointment counts as surgery because the ointment penetrates the skin. That’ll be $495, please.
Can I sue for malpractice if my general practitioner is practicing “surgery” while not being a surgeon then?
Well I mean the insurance will pay for most of it.
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I’m just kidding, fuck you, give me money.
