The 2024 US presidential election had been widely characterized as one of the most consequential political contests in recent US history. Although turnout was high for a presidential election – almost matching the levels of 2020 – it is estimated that close to 90 million Americans, roughly 36% of the eligible voting age population, did not vote. This number is greater than the number of people who voted for either Donald Trump or Kamala Harris.

More than a month on from polling day, eligible US voters from across the country as well as other parts of the world got in touch with the Guardian to share why they did not vote.

Scores of people said they had not turned out as they felt their vote would not matter because of the electoral college system, since they lived in a safely blue or red state. This included a number of people who nonetheless had voted in the 2020 and 2016 elections.

While various previous Democratic voters said they had abstained this time due to the Harris campaign’s stance on Israel or for other policy reasons, a number of people in this camp said they would have voted for the vice-president had they lived in a swing state.

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“The Dems are out of touch on social issues, and have tacked too far to the left to appease a minority of progressives.”

Asshole.

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78 points

And ignorant - they fell for the conservative talking points too

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45 points

And us progressives feel ignored by the Dems. Wild

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39 points

For those who aren’t aware already, “a minority of progressives” means “queer people,” specifically trans people.

This asshole is saying the Dems went too far in trying to make things more equal.

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I think there are a lot of progressives, but I think not enough of them live in swing states. I’m one, and I know there are some around in the college crowd. When Michigan went blue trifecta in 2022, I thought the pendulum was swinging, but now it looks like I was wrong.

This guy might be an asshole, but I’m not certain that he’s wrong.

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Progressivism is further-left than liberalism.

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U guys need mandatory voting like what we got here in aus. And by mandatory it doesnt mean u have to pick someone (its ur right to spoil ur ballot) it simply means u have to attend a polling booth.

Voting is a duty not a right

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We need laws that make it illegal to spread election misinformation. We can’t function as a society with this level of manipulation and outright falsities. Nobody knows what is up or down anymore and this is just the start of what AI and propaganda news media are gonna make possible in the very near future.

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Who decides what is misinformation? The government who is in power and has a vested interest in maintaining power?

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Internationally recognized 3rd party committee with elected members and strict regulations on conflicts of interests would be one option.

Or just stick with the current dumpster fire that could not possibly get any worse. (Well i suppose it could, and will)

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We’re able to adjudicate things like libel and slander just fine.

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Misinformation or misdirection for how to vote or voting practices? The AEC will have you for that.
Misinformation or straight up political lies to convince you to vote for them?
Thats allowed.

In Aus politicians can say whatever they want to get you to vote for them/not for the other parties, but they cannot trick you into filling out your vote cads to vote in a way that you didnt intend.

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Is even easier than that. They will mail the ballot to your house months in advance and you can study everything especially all local initiatives and then mail it back at your leisure and people still don’t do that. It’s madness.

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The problem is that the powers that be used wedge issues and the cowardice of half the citizens to sway the elections however they see fit.

Do you think they would wound their own abilit to game power from the system to serve the citizens?

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Ranked choice voting would be nice as well. So would having more than two political parties.

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Yes Aus has both of those things too.

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Voting should also be easier.

We should be able to vote with our phones.

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Their are problems with that see the multiple tom scott videos on voting.

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I didn’t find Harris compelling, just more of the same.

Well you’re sure not going to get more of the same now. Good job, shithead.

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the problem is, we still gotta beat Trump.

I dont think anyone knows if actual leftist messages will actually work, but holy shit it’s gotta be better than diet, no caffeine, low sodium fun size Bill Clinton Zero.

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Good job, shithead.

Yeah, keep blaming the people “not falling in line” instead of just running a candidate that supports them.

That’s how we got 2 Trump presidencies and people like you still haven’t learned from it.

If anything, this should teach people like you that expecting people to “fall in line” no longer works and you should support different tactics to prevent further conservative blowouts.

I don’t think people like you are capable of learning from this, though. You’re just going to get angrier and keep repeating the same mistakes expecting different results.

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You’re right. I do blame people for “not falling in line” and letting a genocidal fascist dictator who made no secret of that gain control of a nation because they didn’t find the opposition “compelling.”

And as far from not having learned, I think what you haven’t learned is that 2024 was the last real election in the U.S. in your lifetime.

Harris lost. You got what you wanted. Be happy about it.

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Yeah, you’re delusional and incapable of arguing in good faith.

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Well when you get Biden pardoning a judge who literally took bribes to send kids to jail to benefit a for profit jail, I’d question how compelling the Democrats are.

Instead of voting 3rd party and trying to change things, many Americans seems to be locked in a pointless argument over which party is the least shit.

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Maybe you shouldn’t worry about them being compelling when the alternative was fascism.

How are you still arguing this?

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Because it is all a lie to cover up the truth. They want everyone to think of them as righteous, good, and caring. Hell, they want to think of themselves that way. But deep down they know it’s not quite true. There’s something they hate that is more important than what happens to anyone else, and even to themselves. I suspect that for a lot of them it’s extreme sexism… Sure, they are all for a female president. As long as she is perfect. Says everything perfect, does everything perfect, and it would really help if she had a penis too. Or maybe they didn’t want an Indian or another black person… Whatever it was it was more important than their so called support for the Palestinians, support for the Ukrains, hate of fascists and Nazis, ect ect…
Whatever it was, the blood of the Palestinians, Ukrains, is a small price to pay… But whatever it is, it’s heinous and they know it. So, rather than admit to everyone, and even more importantly themselves, what they know is truly disgusting, they pretend that it was something that makes no sense. “She didn’t explain her policies, we didn’t like her policies on something even though her opponents were 100 times worse…”
It’s a smoke screen for the truth. Intellectual Dishonesty. They are lying to us and themselves.
At least the maga crowd has the guts to admit their hate. They come straight out and let you know that they are fine with the world burning as long as whatever they hate burns with it.

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How you still did not understand that this way of arguing won’t change anyone’s mind?

“Choose between slow sleepwalk to fascism or this rapid honest one”.

I can’t fathom why people put all the blame on the voters. Dems could a and should have done more. Harris got billion dollars for her campaign!

Biden pardoning his son is understandable, but a giant Fuck You to everyone else. He got his, now the rest will live with consequences.

DNC has fucked the USA again and again. How about some blame there.

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12 points

Fortunately Biden wasn’t on the ballot

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No, but “i wont be fundentally different from Biden” Harris was.

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7 points

Yeah fuck Biden for doing that, but try to stay on topic

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“What is the point [of voting]?,” he asked. “Aside from a handful of weaponized issues, the parties are nearly identical. They both hate the poor and serve only their donors.”

We can yell at them that the handful of issues should matter enough, or we could actually try to get a popular candidate past the party itself and I to the general.

But shit isn’t going to change until we all admit the DNC isn’t automatically on our side. I’m more hopeful than I should be for the DNC election in February, but I’m ready to be disappointed.

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I really wish we had a unified left because there are enough of us to make a serious push to take over the party, but we’re too interested in bickering amongst ourselves

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to make a serious push to take over the party

No theres not. This is the effect of the lemmy echo chamber. America is A LOT more conservative than ppl here like to admit. The actual left of the Democratic party are ppl like Bernie and AOC and they’re definitely not celebrated inside the DNC

too interested in bickering amongst ourselves

That’s because three Democratic party is a coalition of liberals and conservatives

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Surprised not to see some self-unaware someone arguing that this position is somehow too far to the right or something

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We 100% don’t agree on everything, and I don’t know how unified we can be given the number of diverse interests under the umbrella. Feminists don’t have any natural overlap with folks who want to eliminate cars or with atheists. The only unifying goal that makes proponents allies is opposing conservatives.

You’ve got black folks who are going to live their entire lives oppressed by systemic racism being told to just go along with getting rights excruciatingly slowly and trust their grandkids will have it great.

I’m afraid as much sense as your point makes, it isn’t realistic.

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Problem is that leftists like money, too, and aren’t afraid to exploit others in order to get it.

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The person in the quote is a big indicator that schools are failing to teach civics properly, and people don’t understand what voting is (locally, state, or federally.) Also, they are a fucking idiot.

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He’s referring to the illusion of choice.

Your comment is textbook irony.

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“What a circus” say eligible voters who didn’t vote in the 2024 election:

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The clowns are the ones who fall in line believing that things will improve.

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