Summary

Canadian leaders, particularly Ontario Premier Doug Ford, are considering retaliatory measures against Trump’s tariff threats, including restricting U.S. alcohol imports and cutting electricity exports to 1.5 million American homes.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has remained relatively calm despite Trump’s provocations, but Ontario’s response signals rising tensions.

Analysts warn that Trump’s tariff policies could provoke significant economic retaliation from Canada, disrupting key cross-border energy supplies and trade.

The situation highlights the potential fallout from escalating U.S.-Canada trade disputes under the incoming administration.

68 points

As an American I entirely support this move. No matter what we’re gonna have a shit 4 years and hopefully the worse it is the less credibility they’ll have heading into the next two elections.

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28 points

That’s be nice but the propaganda is such that they get to blame everyone else even when they’re in power. My bet is the worse they crash the country, the harder they’ll double down, and the more tolerance their base will have for them to do truly heinous shit to the groups they vilify (ie trans people and immigrants)

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As an American from a state trying to import more Canadian hydro, yeah

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Depends entirely on who the dems float as their next direction. If its Shpapiro or Blinken or Harris again then we’re just as boned-- 4, 8,and 16 years from now as we are today. It needs to be someone truly progressive and not under the old guard DNC’s corrupt thumb. Theres still an entire court system to make neutral again – we dont have the time for slimy centrist deal makers making halfwitted deals while climate, health care, the economy, elections, justice, and the western alliance are actively on fire and dying every day.

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41 points

I fucken hate Trump so much. Literally no reason to do this shit except to weaken US trade.

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15 points

Exactly. Want to fight China? Do it together with other allies and put tariffs on things you actually produce yourself and don’t want China to get competitive edge on, like for example EVs.

If you fight with allies you are weakening yourself and make China stronger.

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2 points

It makes a lot more sense when you accept that he’s purposely serving Putin. As if by coercion.

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2 points

You think turnip can think that far? All he’s worried about is his image, and if people cheer for him when doing [insert any fucking moronic thing you can think about], his base will cheer him on.

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You think turnip can think that far?

Trump is just Putin’s hand-puppet muppet. I imagine Putin can think that far ahead.

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1 point

China is already ahead on EV production and adoption.

The US has space and AI and the latter hasn’t produced anything meaningful, besides accelerating enshittification.

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32 points

As a nation we decided to fuck around; it’s time we found out.

I’m really hoping the rest of the world follows Canada’s thinking here and just doesn’t put up with the US’s bullshit. 4 years of standing in the corner with a dunce hat is exactly what we need.

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2 points

Im in NZ and we’re not putting up with your bullshit. Cheers mate.

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31 points

How dumb is Trump that he doesn’t understand basic trade? We have X. Canada has Y. We exchange one for the other. Add or subtract from the deal for the other guy and the same will happen for you.

Where are the people who will lose on that energy transfer?

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You’re referring to a guy who has made a fairly successful* career ripping people off and not paying his bills.

* Success as measured by the fact that a) he’s not in jail and 2) he’s the potus… again.

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3 points

I thought Elon Musk was POTUS by proxy.

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2 points

Are we saying Former Husband to Pop Star Grimes is the real President? Cause I imagine that would annoy Trump.

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5 points

The goal is to collapse the system.

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To answer your last question. Everyone.

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4 points

Article said 1.5 million.

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3 points

1.5 million powered by ontario, so the people in ontario lose to. If quebec follows suit, then more people suffer.

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We have X. Canada has Y.

X’s and Y’s? I’m having high school flashbacks over here. I dont know whether to orgasm or cry.

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Exports of electricity to the United States, millions of megawatt-hours

2022

Quebec 22.6

Ontario 15.7

BC 12.1

Manitoba 10.4

Ontario’s powers 1.5 million houses. That’s about 6 million houses total.

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Huh, it’s interesting that all but Ontario are predominantly Hydro on that list Ontario’s Nuclear 1st, then Hydro.

Source if anyone’s interested, can go into specific provinces.

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Ontario happens to have been where a lot of joijt research facilities for nuclear energy were started. The US and Canada invested a lot of money into southern ontario nuclear plants and enrichment centres during and after ww2.

The other provinces have great geography that allows for Hydro to work. Ontario happens to be really geologically stable so it’s prime real-estate for Nuclear plants.

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