There is no evidence this is an official donation fund
That’s it??
The article is from yesterday, and slightly updated.
It looks like it’s now up to $83k
For how hard fundraising for Luigi has been suppressed, I’m shocked it even got this far at all.
The trial hasn’t even been scheduled as far as I’m aware. By the time it rolls around that fund is going to be much bigger.
He 100% needs a better lawyer…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U0Jav3T2K00
The one he has now is probably just the only lawyer in Altoona.
Really? Dude seems like a pro to me.
He has 30+ years of criminal defense experience, and clearly has some media training (which let’s face it, that’s going to be critical in this case in particular).
The guy has even successfully appealed the PA supreme court. What more are you looking for in a defense lawyer, exactly?
Yeah from that video and the one later he seems to know his stuff. Using “put yourself in Luigi’s position” is the perfect answer to avoid leaking sensitive info about your discussions with your client that the media are constantly prodding for, while still evoking sympathy for the defendant.
and clearly has some media training
I admit I haven’t watched the entire press conference…
But I think our standards have been drastically lowered by the last election if the dude in that video qualifies as “clearly having some media training”.
I found this
But it’s like I said, he’s a small time lawyer.
The most noteworthy case in that article was a robbery turned double murder where the defendant is clearly guilty. I didn’t see anything about appealing the PA SC, but whether or not that’s impressive is highly dependent on the exact case. And it’s not as rare as you seem to think it is.
I’m not saying he’s a bad lawyer.
Just that he’s not the caliber lawyer Luigi needs when the full force of the government is going to come down on him.
He seems like a pretty good lawyer to me. A lot of non-answers. No speculation or sensationalism. He’s controlling the conversation rather than letting the reporters derail it. Any particular reason you think he’s bad?
Well, first off the murder charges are NY and this guy’s has only practiced in PA, so it’s a safe assumption he hasn’t passed the NY bar…
There’s other reasons, but the fact that this guy literally can only fight the extradition and gun charges.
I feel like it’s a safe bet that Luigi will need another lawyer
Yeah for sure they’ll bring on another lawyer that’s accredited in New York once needed, but that doesn’t mean this lawyer is a bad one.
Idk, joking around and feeling relatable are pretty good strategies for making a jury feel more sympathetic to the defense. And as other people have said with how high profile this case being calm and good on camera is important. So far I’ve thought he seemed great.
why does he need a defense fund? He’s going to be defended either way.
if they convict him, which they probably will based on DNA and overwhelming evidence, and send him to jail. would he need to pay his lawyers back for their time?
A team of lawyers is going to be much better for him than a single public defender ever can do.
As of right now we have no solid understanding of what evidence there is against him, because the cops could be saying anything they like.
Did he give a sperm sample or something at the crime seen? What DNA?
And public defenders though they are as skilled as any attorney are very much overworked in many places. Private counsel can offer more attention to the details of a case and spend time researching potentially novel theories to defend their client.
They can sample DNA now if you’ve simply been in the area. They can sample it off the backpack he discarded in the park. They can sample it off the shell casings. They have his movement across many cameras.
Remember, they only have to prove “beyond a reasonable doubt”.
I think lemmy users need to get their head out of their asses with the “we really don’t know if he did it” thing. As much as anyone might think the crime was justified, the evidence is pretty solid. And with such an emotional newsworthy case, they’re not going to bring it to trial unless the evidence is beyond reproach.
What do you think DNA is? The thing outside a criminals’s gloves? IRL isn’t CSI Miami. Go swap a NYC sidewalk and see what you get. That’d be a needle in a haystack.
Remember, they only have to prove “beyond a reasonable doubt”.
This is like saying remember marathon runners only need to run 26.2 miles.
It’s not having our “head [in our] asses” it’s a decent respect for the freestanding system of laws. Social media vilianizing or martyrizing people alleged of cromes isn’t beneficial for true justice.
The thing holding back these donation funds is verification that they’re actually for Mangione’s defense. “The December 4th Legal Committee” could just be a scam.
Yeah, I’m holding off on donations until his public defender gives an official place to donate.
I’ve never heard of “GiveSendGo”, and who is d4legalcomm@gmail.com (the email address listed on the GiveSendGo page)? The fact that it’s some random Gmail is kinda sketchy. Are we sure this is legit?
It’s probably not legit, which is why I’m holding off until his public defender gives official information about any potential donations.
Wikipedia explains who they are very well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GiveSendGo
GiveSendGo is a Christian crowdfunding website.[5] GiveSendGo has attracted controversy for allowing far-right extremists to fundraise, including neo-Nazis, white supremacists and hate groups.[15]
They have also had multiple security breaches.
Unfortunately probably the only such site that might host such a fundraiser
