Eurofighter Typhoon shenanigans
this is not classified
False, it is classified as NATO Restricted. Although NR is the lowest classification, it is not unclassified. Stop spreading misinformation. We have layers of classifications for a reason. Y’all act like everything is either Top Secret or Unclassified with no in-between.
I wonder if War Thunder forums will be one of the things Russia will keep allowing connections to (they’re planning to get off the wider 'net), since it’s such a treasure trove for classified info on other countries’ arsenals.
technically this one wasn’t actually classified, it’s just “NATO restricted” so if you live in a NATO country (or even some allied countries iirc) you can access it freely as if it was declassified, you just can’t send it to China or Russia.
Like you can just freely Google that manual or purchase a physical copy without any sort of checks.
That isn’t what NATO Restricted means, at least not in the US—I’m not going to attempt to delve into Hungarian law. It falls under the category of Controlled Unclassified Information (CUI) established by Executive Order 13556, and codified in DoD Instruction 5200.48
This information is not freely available to the public, and must be cleared for release according to the procedures detailed in the aforementioned documents, which specify that it should only be disseminated for official government purposes.
You literally know nothing John snow, and your ignorance is apparent to anyone with even passing experience in this space. I know this because I only have passing experience in this space related to dumbass cyber security rules.
Unclassified is still a classification level and doesn’t imply that it is meant for broader dissemination; CUI would need approval to be shared. People like you are why everyone has to suffer through annual training every year.
That’s literally what classified means, that it has a classification. That classification is NATO Restricted.
As the other reply mentioned, it’s “Controlled Unclassified Information” so it’s in the name, unclassified.
I always wonder if those leaks lead to wikipedia improvements on the given topics somewhere down the line
Wiki requires citation. It’s pretty easy for a government to have someone go in there and revert it for being uncited.
At what point is information considered public, once it is public or once its declassified?
In the United States, at least, it’s not illegal* for regular citizens to publish leaked documents of whatever status. It is illegal for security clearance holders to access information they’re not cleared for, regardless of where that info is. If an Internet forum allows classified leaks, that would make it difficult for security clearance holders to safely browse that forum.
- There are statutes on the books that would punish this type of behavior, but they are usually considered to be unenforceable because of the first amendment to the Constitution. Julian Assange was a notable example of a non security clearance holder non-US citizen who was prosecuted under the Espionage Act. (Or at least an attempted prosecution that never quite cleared extradition…)
Once it’s been declassified. Executive Order 13526 specifies the necessary procedures. Among other things, it states that the original classification authority must set an expiration date, after which the information should be declassified.
If an earlier date isn’t set, documents will be automatically slated for declassification after 10 years, or a maximum of 25 years(at the discretion of the classifying authority), barring certain exceptions.
No force is stronger than the autistic urge to correct something that is wrong in the special area of interest.
It worked! https://lemm.ee/comment/16869673
