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Lol

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Ain’t going to stop my folks from switching to Linux mint.

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Linux Mint Gang!

Are we becoming “I use Mint BTW”?

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Yes,

I use arch BTW.

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guess it was negotiable after all

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Well, would you look at that, if it ain’t the consequences of their own actions.

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This doesn’t end well.

What if it becomes a requirement of software not available outside of their OS?

Of the CPU itself?

DRM intensifies

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Where’s the source for the supposed U-turn? I only see the article defending TPM.

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TPM is still part of what they’re calling “minimum system requirements” but they’re allowing you to install without it. There will be big scary warnings though and they’re threatening to not provide support.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-on-devices-that-don-t-meet-minimum-system-requirements-0b2dc4a2-5933-4ad4-9c09-ef0a331518f1

Time will tell what happens. I believe if they see a significant portion of Windows 10 users on legacy devices without TPM upgrade to 11 they’ll continue to support it because the data they suck up is more valuable to them than the effort to support it.

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The OS being unsupported is a terrible idea. Especially is you’re relying on Defender for EDR… either switch OS’es or upgrade. There is no sense in running vulnerable devices. You’re only creating more attack surfaces. I sympathize with the user that can’t afford an upgrade, but they gotta aware and accountable of the consequence. Arch, btw

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That page does not mention tpm, and on the requirenments page TPM 2.0 is still listed:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/windows-11-specifications

EDIT: OK I see it now, it says that the requirenments are still in place, but that they are not enforced. But it also notes that future updates may not be available to computers that does not fullfill the requirenments

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I think it’s just scare tactics to get people to buy a new computer. I really doubt that Microsoft will withhold updates because it will cause huge security problems.

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They’re not withholding, this is a normal lifecycle for their OS’es (technically this one is already an extended deadline due to covid). The fact that Win10 had a 10 year life is the first time they have done so (LTS builds not withstanding). The amount of vulnerabilities and patching necessary to keep that husk going isn’t worth the squeeze to them.

Even Linux builds are lucky to reach 10 years of support on a given kernel.

Mint Life Cycle

Ubuntu Life Cycle

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It’s more about manufacturers, they want all new laptops to have a tpm, if those mobo/laptop manufacturers want the shiny “compatible with win11” stickers they have to add a tpm.

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I guess it’s fine. I was concerned because of the processor requirements, but the real quality bottleneck was spinning drives.

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A non enforced requirement sounds like it is not a requirement.

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I see it more like that Microsoft are saying something like "Fine, you can install Windows 11 without meeting the official minimum requirenments, but we can’t promise that future patches won’t break your system.

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