15 points

DO IT

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Their hacking teams will still be connected.

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I meam, the rest of the world could cut them off.

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Nah, those spies we have in Moscow needs a way to communicate.

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5 points

would make it a lot easier to identify malicious traffic - all of it :)

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No, let’s not encourage this even as a joke.

All cutting Russia off from the rest of the internet will do is making them more radicalized and give even less opportunities for good ideas and good people to fight back.

That’s why China does it. That’s why Iran did it.

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76 points

Country Self-Defederation

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4 points

Defederation to go with their defenestration.

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8 points

They’re really into cable cutting these days. Maybe we should help.

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So we help russia become an IRL echochamber?

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2 points

Imagine how fast the Russian IT grinds to a halt without SO

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Lmao is russia gonna be even worse than China? At least China still somewhat have access to foreign websites (emphasis on the “somewhat”).

Edit: Also, aren’t telephones still working? Just call a friend/relative outside of the country to obtain information, or ask someone who has a friend/relative out of the country and ask for information on your behalf.

Have they banned mail yet? Try using mail lol.

They’re gonna need to do a nationwide lockdown to stop all information.

(Funny thing is, no matter how hard China tries, I (I’m in the US) can still call relative in China and tell them all the info that the CCP has hidden from them)

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Is that right, you can just like call China, no Great Phone Firewall?

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Yeah. My parents always calls and talk to my aunts and uncles in China. I mean you can say things like “Xi Jingping is stupid” and nothing would happen, but if you say “So lets kill Xi Jingping” that’d gonna get you in trouble (at least, my relative in China would, I’d be safe in the US).

Basically, the reason is, China still need to conduct trades and bussiness with the world, so they allow some level of freedom to keep people happy, but wechat groups shitting on Xi is gonna mysteriously disband. (people aren’t gonna even gonna get arrested unless you’re the group creator) A one to one conversation isn’t gonna cause a protest unlike internet forums or group chats, that why (at least, why I think) they don’t care about phone calls.

People have a misconception that China is nazi Germany, or East Germany, but its not that bad. (I mean its not “great” but its not “nazi germany”, you get what I’m saying?)

Edit: Although, if something happened and there were to be nationwide protests in China, I’d bet they’ll cut off phone calls and make an excuse like “riotors sabotaged the cell towers” or some BS like that.

Edit 2: Fun fact: Vietnam doesn’t even block Google, the last time I checked. Some youtuber went to Vietnam and Google works somehow.

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Are mentions of Winnie the Pooh still forbidden tho?

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6 points

What has happened to the Uighurs in China?

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Yeah. My parents always calls and talk to my aunts and uncles in China.

By all means keep doxing for likes, i’m sure they’ll appreciate it. Good for them they’re not targeted specifically (i assume).

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People have a misconception that China is nazi Germany, or East Germany, but its not that bad. (I mean its not “great” but its not “nazi germany”, you get what I’m saying?)

This was the tremendous stupidity of Nazi Germany - open violence and cruelty against dissidents (and, of course, Jews and other people deemed fine to murder). Ideologically motivated, but counterproductive. They had that vampire “blood for the blood god” aesthetic, if you look at Nazi-time crests, it can be seen very well too, sort of a Satanist state.

Actually every sane totalitarian regime in existence feels not great, but not Nazi Germany.

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Also, aren’t telephones still working? Just call a friend/relative outside of the country to obtain information, or ask someone who has a friend/relative and ask for information on your behalf.

In Putin Russia friend calls you! And by friend I mean your neighbor, and by call you I mean call the police to arrest you because you have dared to ask for information. Straight to the gulag for you!

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That’s not how it works really. In Putin’s Russia, just like in every similar regime in history, most people talking free-minded stuff or even protesting don’t get punished in any way. But some random ones do get jail sentences with the whole list of convictions. And those sentenced are sometimes not even very keen in their views, that’s what helps the effect. You know that anything you say on political subjects can be used against you, and it will be random and unjust, because a lot of people say the same and don’t get hit with the proverbial brick of Russian law enforcement. So as a result some people talk all they want and some people are afraid of political subjects being even touched upon in their presence.

The former group existing doesn’t really hurt the regime. The latter group existing helps it. And they talk very little to each other on political subjects, which is the most useful result - another category of separation.

The whole point of Putin’s psychological strategy against Russians is in making a lot of categories of separation and reasons for apathy. It doesn’t rely on any beliefs being instilled or any active support being called upon. Just that nobody believes anything or does anything.

That’s optimal for preserving power, and support is replaced with enormous strategic resources, but as we can see, those resources are not enough. Still, I think it’ll be many years till that regime falls like Syrian one just did, and yes, just like in Syria, it may fall not to the most pleasant people.

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The smart ones all know how to use VPNs as well. They know what’s up.

Crazy thing is they only need to control the masses who are mostly uneducated or don’t care enough to figure out what’s going on. Turns out that even the USA has a massive group of the latter type.

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Turns out that even the USA has a massive group of the latter type.

What?! But 'Murica! Land of the Free!

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No offense but this is incredibly short sighted and you’re assuming the average person seeks out new information. We really don’t and are more exposed to it in our daily lives of consumption. In 5, 10, 15 years it will increasingly become a problem being cut off from the outside world. Even now many believe the propaganda

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It’s not about restricting information. It’s not a problem in Russia really.

It’s about simplifying surveillance, so that in some civil war scenario the Internet connectivity were still there, but only the controlled and monitored kinds of it.

And also it is - it really is - about preserving connectivity if backbone cables going into Russia from abroad get severed or shut down.

I still think all this is about civil war scenarios. Russia’s history in the last 30 years is about its elite preserving itself at the expense of geopolitical power. They are just preparing for another stage.

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To the people thinking this means Russia will no longer be able to interfere with other countries over the internet: you are probably mistaken. Disinformation teams will still be connected to the internet. All this will mean is Russians having even less exposure to the world outside of what little Vladolf wants them to see.

It will probably make the European CS2 servers less toxic though.

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Less hackers in games?

🤔

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Less hackers in games?

Half of the people in Jita 4-4 disappear overnight.

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5 points

Is this an EVE reference? It’s been at least 10 years since I’ve last played… ah the memories.

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3 points

there’s never been a bigger hive of scum and villainy

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10 points

How are we going to get more treasures like “Blending in with the Russians”?

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It’s not about what Russians can get from the outside, it’s more about what they can get to the outside.

I think the idea is to have some capacity to temporarily preserve some connectivity, while mowing down protesters or something like that.

They are doing such exercises for like 10 years btw.

But when the war in Ukraine stops with some “mission accomplished” ceasefire, there will likely be more violent signs of popular disagreement with Putin. Because, well, people with combat experience will come back. Some of them to ask for money on the streets, some of them to abuse their relatives and neighbors, and some of them to do crime, and some of them probably to stir shit up.

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