.world did too didn’t it?
I think .world’s reasoning was that it’s “unreliable source” rather than “NO MANIFESTO ALOWED!!!”
A LW mod said that the manifesto would be allowed
If it’s confirmed, I don’t see why not. Depends on the community, of course. I’m sure !lemmybewholesome would remove it.
As I understood it, they clarified that we’re not allowed to call for violence and stuff like that. The manifesto itself is fine.
They locked the news post entirely because some comments weren’t bootlicking. My comment was removed for saying “can’t imagine why that happened” which neither “calls for nor celebrates violence” as the mod stated, the latter “celebrating” being his or her invention to broaden the scope of the censoring of comments outside the stated server and community rules.
I’m current researching alternatives and have no idea where to go. I’m pretty drained after a year on Lemmy trying to make this work. I’d look at mastodon but seems like it’s more Twitter than longer form discussion and boards.
Even when dealing with bullshit like this, trying to “rules lawyer” online when a moderation group has made their stance known loud and clear rarely works out well.
Also, just in the rare case you didn’t know, Lemmy is more than just .world. It’s not like Reddit where you’re just stuck with the Reddit admins.
You could register an account on any instance you want. The overwhelming majority of them would still allow you to interact with content from .world, but the worst the .world admins could do would be to ban you from a .world version of a “subreddit”.
I’ve been very happy with the admin of lemmy.dbzer0.com, a former mod (I think former head mod) of the piracy subreddit that resigned with the API mess. Doesn’t seem to take action lightly or capriciously, content to let the community make decisions through open discussion and polls rather than just iron fist their wishes through.
If you otherwise like lemmy I’d recommend dbzer0 or lemm.ee. Both are kinda large instances which ideally would be avoided, but both of them are also very fair with moderation and don’t defederate from many places, which means you can decide whether or not to block one on your own. I also have heard decent stuff about .zip, so that might be worth checking out.
It does suck how many communities ended up centralized on .world, but a lot of the news related ones that are the most susceptible to over-moderation have fairly active alternatives on other instances.
Whether or not that’s exactly what happened, that’s a moderator action, not an admin action, and if you disagree with it, you can just join or start a different news community without stressing about moving your account to another instance (which isn’t a huge hassle anyway - if you use the settings import/export tool, all your subscriptions etc. can come with you).
You can try !usa@midwest.social
A LW mod said that the manifesto would be allowed
If it’s confirmed, I don’t see why not. Depends on the community, of course. I’m sure !lemmybewholesome would remove it.
A Reddit spokesperson, who asked to remain anonymous citing safety concerns, says that manifestos related to violent acts have “long violated our Content Policy” but that “discussion is allowed as long as it doesn’t violate other aspects of our violence policies (e.g., glorification, incitement).”
“You can discuss it, but we don’t want you to read the thing you’re discussing.”
Someone should post the Declaration of Independence, see if that gets removed for being a “manifesto related to violent acts.”
Remember the human. Reddit is a place for creating community and belonging, not for attacking marginalized or vulnerable groups of people.
Those poor, poor marginalized and vulnerable CEOs.
It’s simpler, they just don’t want to moderate the discussion. Reddit mods are shit a best.
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
Yep, definitely inciting violence.
I guess spez is asking for the UHC treatment.
But Reddit also seems to be inconsistently removing the manifesto, as we were able to find a link to the manifesto in Reddit search without much work. Reddit’s new AI-powered Answers tool also showed me information about the manifesto and where I could find it.
hehe
I confess I am surprised by the level of concern these fuckwits are displaying.
If nothing else comes from this, I hope a few conservatives/alt-right types have at least some of the veil lifted as they are constantly gaslit about what to think about this guy.
