12 points

That’s terribly inefficient for a motorcycle

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19 points

How do you figure? 70mpg isn’t too shabby for a motorcycle today. In the 40s? 70mpg is pretty bonkers for a 40s machine.

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5 points

Seems like it was a joke that the “car” is a motorcycle in disguise.

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6 points

Cool, now make it HPV or EV.

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27 points

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9 points

HPV

It’s been vaccinated.

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32 points

It’s easy to make a 100mpg car. All you need is to make it small, flimsy, no aircon, no heater, no stereo, no airbags, toss emissions standards out, pack you in like a snake going up a bear’s anus, and drive around at a steady 25 mph without any stops.

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22 points

Idk, Dutch micro cars are pretty comfortable. They’re quieter, safer for pedestrians, and environmentally friendly. Had a chance to use one last time I was in the Netherlands. The American mindset of “it has to be a giga-truck or it’s bad” really sucks.

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25 points

I’m in love with the Citroen Ami

I mean just look at this little guy. If I had ovaries, they’d be popping right now.

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3 points

That thing better have some amazing suspension or you should keep it only on well-paved roads.

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6 points

They’re cute but very niche. They’re very expensive for what they are, those weird plastic folding windows are not fully waterproof, and the ami generally inferior to a scooter in every way except safety kinda. It’s not like it can carry more than a large grocery bag anyway.

Owning that car really tells a complete story: “I am a 16/17 yo suburbanite so I can’t get my license yet, daddy/mommy is tired of driving me to school, my wealthy parents won’t let me ride a moped because it’s too dangerous, and riding a bicycle or the bus isn’t even an option for someone of my social standing”.

Unsurprisingly, it’s not been selling particularly well. Which is a good thing, because what cities need is more micromobility solutions not cars cosplaying as micromobility.

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4 points

I got to see one at a Stellantis exhibition here in the US! Although they won’t be sold here, so IDK why they brought them to a US event. They’re such neat little cars.

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3 points

I saw someone driving a Microlino the other day. Daft little thing, but you can’t deny it turns heads. If only because people are saying “wtf is that?”

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8 points

No, that’s pretty much what I mean. I’m having trouble finding references to the gas milage of the Canta, but Kei cars tend to max out around 60mpg, and the Canta is only a bit smaller. I also found plenty of posts from locals saying it’s loud, uncomfortable, and unsafe.

The Peel P50 can get close to 100mpg, but that’s pushing what a person can even fit in. This sort of thing is pushing into “why not get a moped?” territory.

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7 points

The original Honda Insight from 2001 got 68 highway, 60 city. And it had all the goodies you’d want in a “modern” car like airbags, aircon, heat, 2 relatively roomy seats, etc. Close to the Doodlebug’s best possible mpg with twice the passengers.

Unfortunately, after 20 years of improvement in auto design, material science, etc, the new Honda Insight in 2022 actually has notably worse city /highway mpg from the original, because it’s so much bigger.

I guess my point is all the innovation in the world won’t fix the fundamental problem that people want bigger and bigger cars?

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3 points

Idk man, I got comfy 50mpg from a 2 ton Mercedes-Benz with most of the trimmings. Well… it was too old to have AC.

The acceleration was utter dogshit tho. Comfy ride tho.

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10 points

It’s that last thing that america (or at least California) has an issue with. We fucking love stop signs. If you have a stop sign every other block, your mpg is gonna be in the range matt gaetz would be interested in regardless of what car you drive.

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3 points

Buddy, I don’t know when the last time you drove a car in the summer with no AC in dress clothes but I lived that for a few seasons and I’ll say that it’s a bigger problem than the stop signs lol

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3 points

But it’s hard to make such a car street-legal in the US.

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4 points

OK, but this appears to carry a maximum of two people and doesn’t look like it has a trunk, so…how would this be better than public transit? Realistically, anyone who bought this would still need a full sized car to support a family of more than two, so this thing would only work for single people or childless couples. It’s cool, and certainly better than everyone owning their own sedan, but not exactly a practical solution to car culture.

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4 points

That’s kind of like asking, “why do people buy ebikes?” These seem the fit the same nich but like in 1944. Obviously it’s not a perfect solution, humans and perfect solutions mix like oil and water. (Salad dressing is mostly oil and water, so I guess that’s the perfect solution)

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1 point

I guess so, but it seems like the bike would have already fit that niche in 1944.

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1 point

We’re bikes powered in 1944? Because that’s the niche this fits

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45 points

Looks like if you ever hit a pebble on the road it would probably flip and kill you. Note also the conspicuous absence of a seat belt. Cute little death machine.

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25 points

Did anything have a seatbelt in 1944?

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8 points

No, that was before Ralph Nader made a whole ruckus about car safety (and rightly so). Still, we’re looking at this from the year 2024 so you can really tell this vehicle doesn’t make sense in our time.

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5 points

Velomobiles are a modern thing. Speed records are over 80kmh from human power only, but ebike motors can achieve that easily.

While most are not this “delta trike” format, and instead have 2 wheels in front, the stability is not crazy bad for deltas. Most are weather proof.

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I sometimes think about Ralph Nader, and the overall balance sheet of lives he is directly responsible for saving, vs lives that he is (I guess indirectly) responsible for ruining and/or ending due to spoiling the 2000 election.

Interesting thought experiment. I guess.

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Volvo filed a patent for some sort of seatbelt in 1889. SAAB became the first car company to make any sort of seatbelt standard in 1958. Volvo became the first car company to install modern 3 point belts as standard equipment in 1959.

So yes, but actually probably not.

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2 points

Gotta love those safety conscious Swedes showing the rest of the world how it’s done 😁❤️

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So a patent existed prior, but that doesn’t mean they were made. SAAB made them standard 14 years after this car. Do with no other data, I’d say no and no.

Edit: just realized that reads like I’m being pissy, but that wasn’t the tone my finger was swiping with. Thanks for the data!

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18 points

Early seatbelt design

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6 points

NO SHOT. That’s a joke, right?

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13 points

I like it. Why live with potentially life changing injuries, when you can simply have your neck broken by your seatbelt instead.

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2 points

Drug Church?

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3 points

Preston Tucker designed his Tucker Torpedo with a safety belt (and a lot of other safety features) in 1948.

And then was driven out of business by the Big Three automakers in the U.S.

There’s a good movie about it.

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4 points

Yeah but not instantly. It would drag you around the road grinding your meats and bones into a nice pasty consistency.

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3 points

I mean, I could see a modern version being made with a rally harness-type restraint system and a windshield frame that doubles as a rollover bar. In this case the biggest danger would be to the driver’s limbs.

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