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Are we doing the libertarian/liberal mixup here or what

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You tell me, have you ever heard a liberal candidate suggest age of consent laws should be up to a vote?

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I guess the libertarian label got coopted in US just as the democrat one. That’s not unexpected, but sad

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Yeah, it’s like how as an American i have to call myself an anti-monarchist because republican means not quite the opposite here

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Of all the age of consent arguments libertarians make this is by far the weakest. Age of consent is literally up to a vote and can be changed. Thats how Arizona got it’s Romeo and Juliett law in the first place.

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Weak, sure. It’s also a public argument made by an official Libertarian Party politician. Most of the stronger ones come from more anonymous libertarians. If that’s what they’re saying in public, etc. etc.

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They are using the american definition of libertarian, which is basically a pseudoconservative.

Quite different from the european definition, which includes leftist ideologies like libertarian marxism (which is in practice extremely close to anarcho-communism)

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Yeah I consider myself an anarchist which is a subset of left wing libertarian so I was surprised. I didn’t know there are right wing libertarians that aren’t claiming to be anarcho-capitalists.

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Yeah it’s similar to how there are some libertarian leftists who dont identify with the anarchist label.

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Roughly the same, but in the US the Libertarian Party is basically just conservatives who want to smoke weed.

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I thought libertarians valued individual liberty.

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The key point is what liberties do they mean. And usually they mean the liberty to have sex with minor and/or effectively owning people.

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I’m hardcore socialist, but I have some libertarian friends that just want to smoke weed, they have more in common with anarchists than Republicans.

I deeply hope that’s not a core tenant of libertarianism, how abhorrent.

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Yeah in my experience there are two types of libertarian, some lean anarchist but are uncomfortable with socialism, others lean fascist but are uncomfortable with fascism. Then there are those who are edgy liberals who are uncomfortable with how necessary regulation is but I haven’t seen many of them in a while

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It’s not usually, the most extreme forms of libertarianism is the complete remove of government control over individual people, which includes a lack of age of consent laws and attracts a certain crowd.

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The only individual liberties they are concerned with are their own, not those individual liberties of another person or people.

And the liberties they most want are the ability to take away those of the people they wish to exploit.

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Sounds like fascist really.

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Everything within the corporations, nothing outside the corporations, nothing against the corporations.

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Yeah, but stereotype doesn’t

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Sure, the same way conservatives value small government and fiscal responsibility.

There’s definitely those who genuinely believe in those ideals, but they’re few and far between.

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Actually lol’d myself into a coughing fit

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Thought it said librarian

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me too, and confusion: …the Librarians HAVE to be inside the schools…

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See that’s how they get away with it. Loopholes.

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I’m only antistatist until the current state is destroyed.

Many flags adorn the war horse.

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