Summary

A Gallup poll shows 62% of Americans believe the government should ensure universal healthcare coverage—the highest support in over a decade.

While Democratic backing remains strong at 90%, support among Republicans and Independents has also grown since 2020.

Public frustration with the for-profit healthcare system has intensified following the arrest of a suspect in the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, reportedly motivated by anger at the industry.

Recent controversies, including Anthem’s rollback of anesthesia coverage cuts, and debates over Medicare privatization highlight ongoing dissatisfaction with the system.

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How many of those 62% voted for the guy who wants to let insurance companies deny even harder?

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8 points

Could be 0, most people didn’t bother to vote in the last election.

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26 points

36% of the eligible voting population did not vote.

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2024-11-15/how-many-people-didnt-vote-in-the-2024-election

I am not a mathematologist, but I’m pretty sure 36 is less than 62.

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4 points

I thought I’d read it was higher, guess I am mistaken.

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2 points

36+62=98 what did that last 2% do lol?

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66 points

too fuckin’ many, and how many sat this one out?

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1 point

let insurance companies deny even harder

Sooner death for insurance companies

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23 points

somehow this doesn’t correlate with the > 50% that just voted against it.

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17 points

Show me where Kamala or the DNC were promoting Medicare for all (or any improvements to healthcare for that matter) in this election cycle? And don’t say negotiating prices on 10 more prescription drugs or I’ll know you’re completely unserious.

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Show me where (evidence there are ANY improvements to Healthcare) except for (evidence of any improvement to health care) or ill know you’re completely unserious. Look obviously it’s not enough, no one should genuinely think it is, but to even compare the two parties when it comes to Healthcare is disingenuous.

Also https://www.self.com/story/kamala-harris-health-policies-2024

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6 points

That’s not medicare for all.

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i did’t say that dems are for it. i said reps are against it. maybe take more time to take in what someone says before arguing against something else.

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R voters also happen to want good healthcare - shocking I know. My point is that the politicians are in bipartisan agreement that profits and lining their own pockets with bribe money is more important than American lives.

My broader point is that Dems lost so many voters because they didn’t indicate any willingness to change from Biden’s policies on this matter. And, obviously, it’s so bad that the people have reached an extreme breaking point. Sadly this allowed Trump to position himself as the change candidate and win, even though in actuality it will be change for the worse through further privatization and rolling back the possibility of those with preexisting conditions to get coverage at all. It’s barbaric, and the Dems were supposed to do so much better for the working class in this area.

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The Dems aren’t saint on the topic, but they also aren’t explicitly against it.

The Rrpublicans have been very clear that taking healthcare away from millions of people is a party priority. The only reason it didn’t happen last time was because of 1 Republican Senator willing to fall on his sword shortly before death and end his career a pariah of the party.

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and yet a good portion of y’all voted for trump and the republicans…

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15 points

And a lot of people who want healthcare didn’t bother voting.

Your inactions have consequences.

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“but I couldn’t vote for the Democrats in good faith!!!”

Well now you’ve helped elect Trump. Hope that aligns with your morals!

(General “you”, not you specifically)

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Aren’t you concerned at all with the large number of people that are under represented by their choices in the voting booth?

State level electoral reform will give more political parties the chance to be involved in future elections with no chance of a spoiler effect.

People would be free to vote for their preferred candidate, safe in the knowledge that their vote would still be counted against the republicans.

Who could say no to more democracy? Who could possibly be against ensuring their fellow country men/women/and more are fully represented to the best of our ability? Republicans? Yes, of course they are against democracy. How about the democratic party? Do they support democracy?

More political parties means more chances to beat the Republicans. More political parties means more people are involved in politics. More people being involved in politics statistically means more votes for the democratic party.

Why is the DNC saying no to these easy extra votes? Why wouldn’t democrats use every tool at their disposal to defeat the republicans?

Perhaps they view their poltical party to be more important then the nation state itself. Party over country, at all costs.

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Tbf the Democrats aren’t particularly interested in addressing healthcare either… the money has to be removed from the system for it to improve. It is currently working as designed.

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0 points

So you’d rather live in a fascist dictatorship than a neoliberal semidemocracy?

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11 points

The average American is stupid and thus easily confused. Hell, half of us read at a 6th grade level…

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Only 23% of people living in the USA voted for Trump

That is 65% more than the percentage of people that, according to this post, dont want health coverage for everyone

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23% voted for Trump, and 55% also indirectly did by not voting or going third-party.

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Maybe they should have voted then, last election most people couldn’t even be bothered.

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I think part of the problem with that argument is that only a small percentage of Dems want real coverage and the rest want status quo insurance crap- and this coming from someone who did vote.

I still remember when ACA happened. The smart people who wanted single payer or similar were shunned out the room. If I was a slightly stupider or slightly more vengeful men, I too might have gotten disengaged from the political system.

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Except if the dems had solid majorities for years they could be pushed left easily. Look at California. Not as left as Lemmy wants obviously but so much further left than the majority of the country.

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1 point

I see, Democrats needed to win every single election for a decade or more before they could give us healthcare.

Cool system you have there.

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Except if the dems had solid majorities for years they could be pushed left easily.

That is exactly what it will take for major progress. Otherwise it won’t happen.

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I still remember when ACA happened. The smart people who wanted single payer or similar were shunned out the room

Because neither Obama nor Clinton campaigned in 2008 for single payer. And there was no margin to spare in getting the 60 senate votes needed (although they should have only need 50 no 60), and so Lieberman all by himself was able to kill the Public Option that most people would have used.

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28 points

Yet, they keep voting for the opposite. People seem too dumb to be allowed good things.

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Remember Biden beat Medicare. Democrats have never been serious about universal healthcare. Your choices in the US are “lip service” or “burn everything down”

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American voters have been indoctrinated to think anything that in government initiated is “socialism.”

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100% and the sad fact is it plays into the GOP/ Oligarchs hand.

Messaging is important. Just look at the damage control corporate media is spewing out about UHC shooting.

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