The cops responded to a call saying “Yeah I think he’s here,” believed it and arrived in force within the time a person spends at a MacDonald (was the suspect playing in the ball pit?) and arrested him, finding the incriminating gun and silencer he had no reason to keep, along with a “manifesto”" which is a rarity among sane people but shooters have to have one according to cops?
Sounds reasonable.
Lemmites are the perfect demographic for brain rot conspiracies like this. The perfect combination of ego and below average intelligence.
Firstly, I haven’t been whipped up by anyone, I came up with that myself, before I read anything else.
Secondly, yeah, I was somewhat hasty.
I’m not normally one for conspiracy theories, but there’s a massive motivation for the US government to find anyone who looks about right and is disgruntled and then frame them, or plant evidence on someone they found through an illegal means. The US surveillance state uses parallel construction all the time to hide the actual (often illegal) ways they find someone.
Plus, if you don’t have a suspect, the message to all the proles out there is that you can kill CEOs and get away with it. The internet just showed that the only reason the working class aren’t doing The Purge on CEOs is fear of consequences. That’s a critical threat to the ruling class, and they will 100% frame, pay to take the fall or blackmail someone into it rather than not convict somebody.
It doesn’t line up at all that he brought a handwritten copy of his manifesto plus his fake IDs and his recently used murder weapon to a Macdonalds. Especially after being careful about escaping the city, and the amount of practice he had to smoothly clear the jams when he shot Thompson shows this was premeditated.
Unless he takes the jury stand and uses it to verbally blast the ruling class and try to incite more violence, this ain’t the shooter IMO.
Theory I heard is that he wanted to be arrested, because he has a plan, maybe using court as a stage for making a public statement.
And that he may even tell the mcDonald worker to rat him out and collect the money.
Probably far from truth, but it would be cool if all that was true.
Good luck getting the reward money, ya fucking rat!
Imagine if Luigi also made the move to hand the bounty to someone who needs it.
It was a McDonald’s customer who turned him in. (Edit: the article I read has been updated)
But I can’t help but find the whole thing really suspicious. In his possession they found a gun, silencer, and three-page hand written manifesto.
Who handwrites an essay before going out to kill someone? That just feels hard to believe.
But I can’t help but find the whole thing really suspicious.
He was America’s Most On TV Human for the last week. I’m not shocked someone recognized him. And its not like he was picked off a bus in Manhattan at random. The guy was traced all the way to Pennsylvania.
He probably could have gotten away if he’d laid low for another week or two. But this absolutely sounds like a guy with some serious mental health issues who was not thinking ten steps ahead as everyone in the fandom wanted to believe. He was just some angry 20-year-old doing a more newsworthy version of a school shooting, not The Leftist Jackal plotting elaborate Mission Impossible style assassinations.
Who handwrites an essay before going out to kill someone?
The same kind of person who signs their bullet casings.
It’s the handwritten bit that I find hardest to believe, though. The guy studied AI at university and was involved in Game Design classes. He was a tech guy. Nobody who’s that intimate with computers would choose to convey their message across three hand-written pages. It just seems really odd.
Being an IT guy makes you not use real pens or paper? The amount of cope for this guy is unreal. That’s just stupid.
Handwriting is more intimate and allows for better expression through the script. For something so personal, it sounds perfect. I love handwriting, do it regularly and I’ve been intimate with computers more than once ;)
Nobody who’s that intimate with computers would choose to convey their message across three hand-written pages.
Seems like a guy with a background in tech and a significant concern over his privacy would be exactly the kind of person to keep his heretical most views on paper rather than online. The guy had basically dropped off the web for months prior to the assassination.
He wasn’t traced there though? They just found a guy that conveniently had all that shit on him like come on
He wasn’t traced there though?
He was traced through the use of his fake ID and through security camera footage along the route he traveled. There were also plenty of sightings (some less reliable than others) that were coming into the police nationally. The tip off in Altoona was almost certainly not the only one made. He was observed on a cab security camera. He was sighted at a bus depot. And there were a few other data points police alluded to that weren’t made public. That rapidly narrowed down where he could have gone to next.
Not enough people wearing a mask in New York or Pennsylvania that it didn’t make him stand out. That, and he was tall, and the upper part of his face was all over the news for days straight.
That he had all his shit on him was unfortunate. But even if he’d dumped it, if it was on an observed route it would have just been one more data point for police to follow. Guy fought the law and the law won.
Carrying all of the evidence related to the crime several days later is very out of character with the careful preparation and execution of the crime itself, and a little too convenient for an open/shut case. The ruling class absolutely needs to crush someone very publicly right now out of fear of copycats.
I feel like he could be on TV but the majority of the public puts that in the back of their mind and not something they are looking out for. I really think it’s this guy and he had a message from his now deleted YouTube videos that were supposed to be released after he was caught. We will never know unless he shares more in court what is going on. The only lead I have seen is his review of Teds book, and how much it spoke of someone fed up with the system and making a point that “those who don’t stand up to commit violence are cowards or the accused” or among those lines.
I feel like he could be on TV but the majority of the public puts that in the back of their mind and not something they are looking out for.
You don’t need the majority to recognize him. Your just need a random distribution over a wide area.
We will never know unless he shares more in court what is going on.
“Everything to support the claim is made up” is going to be the rallying cry of an increasingly fringe group over time
The pictures of Mangione don’t even match the other pictures they’ve put out of the suspect. Dude’s brow line is completely different.
I low key have been wondering since the press conference last night if they used facial recognition software to find him.
They said he had multiple fake IDs on him. I find it crazy that he took so many precautions in New York and was just walking around with all that in his pockets.
Right? This guy they picked up had a ghost gun, silencer, and manifesto on him despite all the other careful planning? I mean, I know criminals very often fuck up in very stupid ways but who is dumb enough to use a ghost gun, but not dispose of it after using it for a crime? And also walk around with basically an admission of guilt? Something is fishy.
Also he had the same fake ID he used to check into the hostel? What the heck is this guy doing? While it seemed likely he would be caught eventually, disposing of the ID, his guns, the manifesto, and staying in his basement for a while would be by far the best course of action, not going to a McDonalds and eating it inside
This is the US, where people dont follow instructions like robots. He was actually found carrying three EA Game Cards.