Electric cars are not THE solution.

7 points

fuckcars

permalink
report
reply
7 points
*

Ban tires!

The American auto industry

Lobbyists

Conservatives

The existence of hundreds of thousands of miles of asphalt paid for by the American taxpayer

Oh, right. Well, I’ll just wave my finger once a year and… die, eventually.

permalink
report
reply
0 points

Cool and absolutely nothing will change.

Oh I know maybe we can start making tires out of paper instead!

permalink
report
reply
1 point

If we make them out of asbestos (nature’s perfect material) then it will eliminate microplastics and help to reduce car usership dramatically over the long term.

permalink
report
parent
reply
15 points

There is no alternative suggested. The purpose of this movement is to tax heavy EVs. I think that makes it distraction.

The smaller the EV the more range per kwh, and so smaller batteries are needed which makes them more affordable. It is not unreasonable to tax heavy vehicles, but the punch line that motivates this piece is “EV’s bad”. They could have recommended micromobility for example.

permalink
report
reply
1 point

It would be funny though if some environmentalist managed to make the tax properly technology agnostic though. Mostly if you can keep them from being exempted anything that hurts EVs goes double for pickups.

Of course we both know gas cars get exempted whenever this sort of thing passes because it’s never actually about vehicle weight and road wear so much as how can we slow the decline in gasoline demand for a few years, but it’s nice to imagine that silver lining.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

imho we should tax any vehicle that puts an inordinate strain on the roads. ultra-heavy EV’s like cybertrucks and hummers are ridiculous and inefficient, and the purchases knew it when they bought them.

but also the cummins diesel powered pavement princess my colleague drives BY THEMSELVES TO THEIR OFFICE JOB day after day, I think that should have to pay an excise tax.

work vehicles certainly deserve cutouts, but they need to be work appropriate vehicles, not just jacked up asshole haulers.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

work vehicles certainly deserve cutouts

That thinking is what got us SUVs. Work vehicles earn income, and so probably don’t need cutouts.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points
*

Who ever said electric cars were the solution?

permalink
report
reply
2 points

Binary view is a poor one. EVs have a lot of benefits and also some drawbacks. As everything in the world, they are not perfect. The trick is that they have much more benefits than drawbacks.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

A lot of people think that. The solution to car pollution is less cars and more forms of transport. It’s trains. I like trains.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points
*

Helping one problem and not helping them all means it’s better to do nothing according to a lot of people. If you are anti cars that’s one thing, but to specifically aim it at EVs is clearly just targeted propaganda as always.

Yes we put 100 years of research into gas powered cars, 15 years of research (or less by most companies) and the weight isn’t the same yet so they want to toss all advantages of moving to them.

Look at things like the Telos Truck. 4,400 pounds, 4 doors, small and can fit a 8’x4’ sheet of plywood if needed in the bed.

Length of a mini Cooper, so it fits in smaller parking spots, weighs less than the average ICE truck, costs less than the average ICE truck and will have less impact on tires people worry about here, while not shipping oil across oceans and causing cancer to the people in the vicinity.

permalink
report
parent
reply

Climate - truthful information about climate, related activism and politics.

!climate@slrpnk.net

Create post

Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades:

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world:

Recommended actions to cut greenhouse gas emissions in the near future:

Anti-science, inactivism, and unsupported conspiracy theories are not ok here.

Community stats

  • 4K

    Monthly active users

  • 3.1K

    Posts

  • 11K

    Comments

Community moderators