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“new” study, draws half it’s methodology from referencing older papers, including the problematic poore-nemecek 2018 piece.

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There are an estimated 1.475 billion cars/trucks/vans in the world, as of 2023. 8 million is 0.005% of 1.475 billion.

Now, if they’re going by the number of vehicles in the UK, then that number is obviously different. 41.2 million estimated vehicles in the UK. 8 million is a significantly larger percentage in that equation (19.4%). They also don’t mention whether they’re talking about ICE or electric cars, but I think it’s safe to assume ICE. In 2023 there were 851,000 licensed zero emissions vehicles in the UK, up 57% from the prior year.

I’m a strong proponent for cutting your beef, lamb, cheese, coffee, and chocolate consumption , as they’re among the worst, emissions-wise (bearing in mind this chart is by kilogram, not by calorie) by a long-shot, but we should be realistic about the things that are likely to do the most good.

We recommend four widely applicable high-impact (i.e. low emissions) actions with the potential to contribute to systemic change and substantially reduce annual personal emissions: having one fewer child (an average for developed countries of 58.6 tonnes CO2-equivalent (tCO2e) emission reductions per year), living car-free (2.4 tCO2e saved per year), avoiding airplane travel (1.6 tCO2e saved per roundtrip transatlantic flight) and eating a plant-based diet (0.8 tCO2e saved per year). These actions have much greater potential to reduce emissions than commonly promoted strategies like comprehensive recycling (four times less effective than a plant-based diet) or changing household lightbulbs (eight times less).

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/aa7541/pdf

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Its also way better for you.

Legit, I was so warned about eating disorders when I was young, I never learned to just eat light and how fasting is a thing.

Eat some nuts and enjoy some other stuff. Meat shoumd ve cuts, and it should only 2-3 times a week.

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I wish cloned meat was a viable thing. No animal suffering, far less pollution, sticking it to the vegan.

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Why would this be sticking it to a vegan if you are eating a cloned organism with no experience of life? Its not a zero sum game, you can both have some (vegan) pie.

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There are great alternatives today like impossible, beyond and tofurky. There’s no need to wait for lab grown meat. That’s like saying sticking it to the abolitionists and feminists. It’s silly to want to stick it to the most moral people in the world.

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abolitionists and feminists fight for human dignity. comparing them to animals undermines human dignity

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I don’t care what anyone says, take some dry aged ribeye cooked to perfection, or some smoked ribs falling off the bone and compare that to some frozen tofurky log and tell me with a straight face that that’s an alternative. Forget about ballpark, gardein and beyond aren’t even playing the same sport when it comes to something like a smoked turkey leg.

Veganism is admirable. Animal welfare, carbon emissions, nutrition, these are all good reasons to stop eating meat altogether. But let’s not delude ourselves here, meat can be just about the most delicious food in existence. I have tried tons of fake meat products and they all taste like sodium cardboard nuggets.

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No idea what that is about, maybe because I do want to eat meat, without the moral implications.

Anyway, I doubt I can get away with it in this conservative shithole country. If I didn’t live with my parents, I would have cut meat quite a lot. I actually prefer salads and such.

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Very mature of you.

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But they hurt my fee fees with their mean words!

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• save the planet

• save the animals

• stick it to the people who thought of all that first

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You transition out of meat to save the environment.

I transitioned out of meat because of meat recalls and all the chemicals they sneak in a cow, and was ripping the hardest farts that would clear out a room.

We are not the same.

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Dat odorless, anxiety-free, harmles fun of vegan farts!

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Not kidding. Had a vegan apologize when she ripped a loud fart because steamed carrots made her gassy.

Not a single person smelled anything.

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