He now has 100 problems
I’m glad that “rape” is in the headline. Too many try to sugar coat. “Sex with an underage…” etc.
How is this not a criminal charge…
I feel like going civil route is diluting the gravity of what actually went down.
Where did they find 13 year old to rape?
Where are fucking parents of these children?
Between CEO getting executed and another elite child rapist… Who fucking rules us?
Who fucking rules us?
Sociopaths mostly I’d say.
There’s a great Tom Waits song called God’s away on business with some pertinent lyrics:
who are the ones we left in charge? Killers, thieves and lawyers
Great song btw.
That’s from Waits’ stage adaptation of the famous German unfinished manuscript Woyzeck (Voy-chek), it was a song from act 1 setting the scene in which a working class man would be toyed with and experimented on by high society and the army, driven to madness and killing his wife and himself.
I don’t know details of this, but when the lawyer had a press conference announcing info the first 100 lawsuits, he mentioned that a lot of the crimes were reported to authorities at the time, but for whatever reason, the crimes weren’t pursued.
Oh I can tell you why.
Bingo.
I chose to use the word authorities and not cops specifically because it isn’t just cops that don’t care about the wellbeing of women. It’s incredibly frustrating for that to be the case in the year 2024, but it’s true.
The allegations are that she was hanging out by the stage door after a show. Maybe she wanted an autograph or to meet her idol? But even if she specifically sought out these men because she wanted to have sex with them, and even if her parents were wildly irresponsible, there is no excuse for drugging and raping a child.
Jay agrees:
“These allegations are so heinous in nature that I implore you to file a criminal complaint, not a civil one!! Whomever would commit such a crime against a minor should be locked away, would you not agree?” Carter said in a statement to NBC News. “These alleged victims would deserve real justice if that were the case.”
Yeah becuase he knows it can’t be proven beyond reasonable doubt now and the has money to fight it.
They did get a conviction v Weinstein though.
Burden of proof is much higher in a criminal case. It’s very hard to prosecute people for crimes that occurred 20+ years ago, but with a civil suit they are probably hoping for a settlement. Based on his statement, sounds like that’s not going to happen.
And that’s why crimes should be reported when they happen so proper evidence is collected.
I deff think Jay z did due to Diddy affiliation but this is he said, she said now.
Diddy was affiliated with every rapper in NYC back then. I don’t think we can assume that everyone who ever associated with him shared his predelictions.
I think Jay probably got looped in on the lawsuit because they know he was at the party and he is filthy rich.
Because a criminal trial is an all-or-nothing charge, and if you fail to convince 1 juror, Jay-Z gets zero punishment for raping a 13 year old. Your odds of winning a civil trial over rape is much higher, and even if the defendant puts up a good case, you won’t walk away empty handed.
Many rape victims don’t come forward until others do, if at all.
Going up against a couple of billionaire child-rapists isn’t likely to get you anything other than slut-shamed at best. These are powerful people who can have you disappeared.
I didn’t expect Jay-Z to get roped into this. But he’s a big time musician and they seem to have felt like they can get away with raping teenage groupies for many decades now.
I’m sorry… are you saying it’s not their fault that they raped teenagers because it didn’t occur to them to ask them their age?
Despite a history of music stars raping teenagers going back to at least Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis in the 1950s?
What absolute nonsense.
Sounds like people have known for a while and haven’t prevented kids from being around them.
I think the difference between a 13 year old and an 18 year old is generally pretty obvious and if you can’t tell then don’t even risk it.
Never meet your idols.
I seriously stopped being a fan of any public figure because people seeking public attention are mostly off-putting at least. Then come the narcissists and psychopaths, it gets only worse.
And yet parents allow their children attend these concerts… Then pika face when their children get raped or worst ignore it.
Or don’t idolize idiots. Popstars and corporations washed the market so much that they are now accepted by the public as smart or cool. Not so many years ago everyone considered them trashy.
If your idol turns out to be a jerk in real life, is that their fault, or does it mean you’re just a bad judge of character? And I mean generally - not you in particular.
Personally, I’d be more than happy to meet my idols. I’ve listened to them speak for hundreds, and in some cases thousands, of hours on podcasts. Nobody can hide their true personality for that long. I’m confident I already have a pretty good idea of what they’re like in real life. That’s also why it’s so funny when non-listeners try to convince me that they know these people better than I do.
Ignoring that it is possible for people to hide who they are (editing is a thing): I don’t think idolizing podcasters is the flex you think it is.
Some of us have been conditioned to hide our personalities all the time, until it becomes automatic… We can’t take off the mask even with effort…
