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For weeks following Joe Biden’s disastrous performance, his campaign publicly maintained the illusion that he was still well-positioned to defeat Donald Trump. Privately, they knew otherwise. As Pod Save America co-host Jon Favreau revealed days after the election:

After the debate, the Biden people told us that the polls were fine, and Biden was still the strongest candidate. They were privately telling reporters, at the time, that Kamala Harris couldn’t win. […] Then we find out, when the Biden campaign becomes the Harris campaign, that the Biden campaign’s own internal polling, at the time when they were telling us he was the strongest candidate, showed that Donald Trump was going to win 400 electoral votes.

The implications of this are staggering, and it should be treated as a massive scandal.

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Well, they couldn’t tell the truth and risk a more liberal candidate.

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I honestly have a hard time believing it was ideology and not the good, old fashioned inability of boomers to let go of power.

Edit: Not talking about the Democratic establishment. Speaking specifically about Biden refusing to step down until it was too late.

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Biden is silent gen, the generation before boomers.

But yeah all the old politicians clinging to the levers of power because they’re selfish is a part of what has led us to this point.

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It’s not even just old politicians, it’s every aspect of society, at least that’s my experience

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Nah the article makes it clear the Democratic leadership has been captured by corporate executives who have a vested interest in not giving the working class an inch.

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You’d have a hard time believing a lot then, because that’s what actual voters were saying. If Harris had been more left-leaning in appearance, they wouldn’t have even captured the shift they did grab.

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Clearly she didn’t support genocide hard enough or get the endorsement of enough Cheneys.

For your liking.

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At least they would have failed trying to do something, as opposed to failing trying to do nothing.

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It’s hard to truly know what went on behind the scenes, but there was a large amount of common disdain for Biden staying in the race after “we beat Medicare” - anyone who hadn’t already been clued into his cognitive decline was suddenly confronted with that reality, and people knew he was a clear loser at that point.

For Biden the floor only fell out beneath him after Nancy Pelosi and the donor class publicly announced they wanted Joe out NOW that the DNC/Biden camp realized the gig was up.

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anyone who hadn’t already been clued into his cognitive decline was suddenly confronted with that reality

I remember when I said Biden was making more speeches like Trump, I was downvoted on Reddit for wanting someone younger than retirement age for president, even if I was going to vote for Biden.

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I don’t think these people could get any more liberal.

But they could certainly choose a leftist candidate in theory at least.

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Yet, under his leadership, Minnesota passed some of the most ambitious progressive legislation in the country, including a child tax credituniversal free school meals, and free tuition at public colleges for families earning under $80,000 per year. Walz also delivered major labor victories, including paid family and medical leave and worker protections like banning non-compete clauses and anti-union captive audience meetings.

Nooooo Democrats ignore working peoplllllle! They’re terrible for the underserved!! Everyone knows that that’s why they looooossst!!

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And the weed.

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It’s only in one state…

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The state that was run by the VP candidate.

Except, where did that guy go for much of Sept and Oct?

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America is federal. States could have their own laws, that is my point. Walz becoming VP or the president would not change that. Many states would still be die-hard Republicans.

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The only progressive one is the free college one. The rest are so bare minimum that India and Brazil have them (feeding schoolkids and paid parental leave.) Minnesota isn’t the USA writ large either.

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Til paid parental leave doesn’t pass the progressive purity test.

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I don’t get what you mean. It’s a minimum requirement. If there is a “progressive purity test”, then it’s the part where you write your name at the top of the paper. Huge credit for the free university though.

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How many of these were put onto Harris’ platform, and then how many had a chance of getting passed in Congress?

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For the Congress, I would say mill, but that’s because of the Republican party.

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But he’s an evil capitalist. If you aren’t fighting for violent communist revolution, you’re part of the problem!! /s

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Walz then disappeared for a month. The campaign sent him into the background while Harris made appearances with Liz Cheney.

They threw progressives a bone, and then forgot about it.

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Waltz did a good job in the VP debate, and then the DNC told him to stop calling JD weird.

And then he played games on Twitch. Such a win for progressives! “Shut up and play games on Twitch!”

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No, they’re clearly capable of it when they want. That’s the frustrating part. This republican lite theme is an active choice national democrats keep making.

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Why do things you promised and ran on when you can say “My hands are tied, I need to get Republican voters come November!” for 4 years?

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So why did they actually ignore working people? Because while you’re right that Harris’ platform was very progressive, and Walz would have been the most left-wing VP in recent history, the Harris/Walz campaign didn’t care about any of that. They campaigned on being tough on immigration, protecting Israel, being pro-billionaire, and reaching across the isle to Republicans. When asked about the economy, they deflected or talked down. When asked about change, they promised there would be none. You can’t be surprised that working class folks would feel left out in the cold when they were explicitly ignored.

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The campaign was fine. Americans are the problem. They’re too ignorant.

If we’re going to blame this ignorance on anyone we might consider blaming the media. Odd how we aren’t seeing a lot of articles from the media saying the media failing to give information to people about how bad Trump is. But linked above is something from the media blaming a political campaign for not doing their jobs for them.

Still not doing any introspection about waiting until after the election to explain why Trump’s “economic plan” will be a disaster, huh? Didn’t bother to explain anything about what causes inflation. Wouldn’t want people to think it’s something to do with it being a free market, and not caused by the government. Nope, it’s up to the campaigns to explain economics to people in 30 second TV spots.

So the media will continue blame the Democrats for all the problems, while wondering “why couldn’t the democrats win the election”? Must be the democrats fault! It’s like we’ve always been saying, it’s always their fault! We should never think about what the effect of us blaming one party for everything might be.

But mostly it was just Americans taking democracy for granted. Don’t know what you got until you’ve lost it I guess.

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The campaign was complete garbage, though. In a Rolling Stone article, it details on how many advisors and Democratic party operatives were begging her campaign to not bring in Liz Cheney because any gains would essentially be eclipsed by other Democratic voters that otherwise stayed home.

A Democratic strategist says they warned key Harris surrogates and top-level officials at the Democratic National Committee that campaigning with Liz Cheney […] was highly unlikely to motivate any new swing voters, and risked dissuading already-despondent, infrequent Democratic voters who had supported Biden in 2020

I also understand that your main points are on how political commentators and news anchors on TV chose not to encourage Harris to tackle issues on the economy, but an Atlantic article essentially tells us that Harris torpedoed her anti-big business rhetoric when she brought in her brother-in-law into the campaign itself.

While Harris was stuck defending the Biden economy, and hobbled by lingering anger over inflation, attacking Big Business allowed her to go on the offense. Then, quite suddenly, this strain of populism disappeared. One Biden aide told me that Harris steered away from such hard-edged messaging at the urging of her brother-in-law, Tony West, Uber’s chief legal officer

Honestly, how big of a role does media have in swaying her campaign into talking about important issues (such as the economy, like you pointed out) if she willingly chose to ignore the easiest slam dunks her campaign had?

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I have a hard time believing that anyone was engaged enough to actually understand who Cheney was (to the point that they have an opinion of her) AND they were so upset by the gesture of welcoming her on on the Jan 6th Committee as a bridge that they completely refused their civic duty to vote? Something doesn’t square there…

That said, Cheney is human garbage who was still spewing that ridiculous “dems want to abort babies after they are already born” bullshit, as of very recently.

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Yep, Snapz > Harris’ aids and reputable sources. You’re clearly smarter than the helpers and all papers that document it well.

What kind of Trump supporter “How did he lose 2020? Rigged!” thinking is this? Running a bad campaign of copying Romney/Trump points that Trump supporters won’t like, and the people Trump’s policies hurt don’t think you care about them in any way beyond tokenism, loses you that election.

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The democrats that stayed home are most certainly in the group I called ignorant Americans. People couldn’t see the difference between Harris and Trump, “ignorant” is being generous.

If people understood how the economy worked at all, then it would have been a strength and she wouldn’t have been on the defensive about it. And do you think the majority of Americans who voted for Trump would have changed their mind if she was running on an “anti-business” platform? Trump who was proposing tariffs would solve inflation?

We literally had a candidate for President telling people to watch her opponents rallies. Why was that? Because the media only wanted to show pundits arguing over something because ratings. Everyone seeing him as the bat-shit lunatic he is doesn’t give them anything to debate. So they had to sane wash what he was saying to give the pundits something to talk about. Harris has to have an economic plan. Trump, well his plan is batshit so don’t talk about it. Why isn’t Harris doing more interviews? Trump… well he’s not doing interviews because he’s too batshit, nothing to discuss there.

But sure believe the media when they blame the democrats for not doing the media’s job. If I were more conspiracy minded I might say they didn’t want to explain anything so the dems would have to explain things via ad spots the media made money from. But never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence.

The media is failing to explain anything because they’ve been too distracted by Trump for a fucking decade. But as long as they can blame their failures on the democrats (which does have an impact on the dems getting elected ya know) they aren’t going to change.

This ain’t new either. I had to learn about how vaccines from a youtuber that plays Mario Maker. Despite the covid vaccine being one of the biggest stories of the decade, they didn’t bother to cover anything about it’s development and testing. It was just Trump Trump Trump Vaccine Trump Trump Trump… Why don’t people trust the vaccine? Why oh why don’t people know that the vaccine is safe?

Same fucking thing this year. Trump Trump Trump TRUMP ELECTED! Trump Trump… why don’t people understand that inflation has been handled and tariffs will only bring it back?

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The campaign was fine. Americans are the problem.

Hi, Principal Skinner.

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It was a great campaign if the cheneys were the only voters.

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The alternative was Trump. Harris posing for some photo ops to try to pick up some GOP moderate votes doesn’t change the fact her opponent was Trump.

If some people wouldn’t vote for Harris because of some photo ops with Cheney, those would be people in the ignorant group I’m talking about.

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they’ll try to run the exact same plan in 2028 if we let them. Its all they know how to do.

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Nancy Pelosi 2028, let’s gooooo!!!

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It’s her turn! USA will understand that.

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Nancy Pelosi 2028, let’s gooooo!!!

ah man, that hurts. I can only get so aroused before something pops.

/s or is it…

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democratic candidates after Carter don’t know politics… al they know is AIPAC, punch the left, twerk, be bipartisan, kill Arabs and lie

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Fascism Lite and Fascism Max, into Blue Fascism and Red Fascism!

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It’s all they want to do

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The Democratic party is an enemy of the American people, as much now as the Republican party always has been.

They don’t fight for you to stop fascism. They enable it, step aside and let it walk past and say “well, we did all we can do”.

Well, if all they can do is die, good riddance.

PARDONS HIS DRUG ADDICT SON, WHILE YOU CAN’T AFFORD GROCERIES 🤣

^ remember that

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What do those two things have to do with each other?

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The Democratic party is an enemy of the American people, as much now as the Republican party always has been.

There is no reason any politician should ever listen to what you want or pay attention to you in any way. By treating politicians who raise taxes on the rich the same as politicians who lower taxes on the rich, you are literally encouraging politicians to lower taxes on the rich and increase wealth inequality.

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Democrats used my money to buy weapons for genocide(which it is), shoot rubber bullets at college students(plural), and save their own skin rather than ours.

Take your taxes and eat shit, and maybe get some goddamn reading comprehension. No one said a thing about taxes.

I’m talking about the 1% cowards with blue ties on that ignore their voter base. Who knows, maybe I’ll get to visit one in prison after Trump’s done and voice my grievances.

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You seem mad. Seems like you are misdirecting your anger though.

Sometimes we get angry at ourselves for doing stupid shit (or in some cases not doing a thing we should have done), but our ego will prevent us from accurately pinning that anger on ourselves.

You are in for a rude awakening in two months.

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No one said a thing about taxes.

The politicians you were telling people not to vote for were the very same politicians stopping the GOP from increasing wealth inequality. Wealth inequality is the driver of all of our other problems.

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Fucking joke…

We’re about to see in less than two months just how absurdly wrong you are.

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“Dictator day one”

~ Donald Trump

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Yes, that is what he said, and I believe him… I’m not exactly sure what you think your argument here is…?

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