Let’s face it, the dems don’t care about the commoners, the republicans are actually pure evil, everyone was happy when that shitstain CEO got shot.

Maybe we should build on this momentum we have to drive actual change at the political level.

my first act as president in 2029 would be to issue a full and unconditional pardon of the billionaire killer.

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well alrighty then, followup question, does anyone want to join my newly formed political party? I’m going to start working on drafting our mission statement, or manifesto or whatever it should be called.

Further Edit: I set up a lemmy community for us to post shit about it. If you want to join, that’s our official, unofficial space. https://lemmy.world/c/newpoliticalparty

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Since you seem interested, start one. Don’t ask someone to do it for you, or for their approval. Do what you truly believe, not what others support.

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If you do. I think it’s a great idea.

But don’t fall into the “green party” loophole of just sabotaging neo-liberal democrats and helping literal facists get elected.

Start local. Run for seats you can win. Priosritise states with open primary systems.

We need a grassroots movement.

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Right now is actually the perfect time to create a third party. You have effectively two years to get people excited about an actual progressive party and if the DNC come knocking saying you’re going to split the vote, tell them that they are splitting the vote and they should fold into you.

I’m fucking tired of the Democrats learning the wrong lessons from lost elections. They’d rather lose than give up power.

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Or hijack the democratic platforms like how magats hijacked republican party.

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There is a reason why it worked for the Republicans and won’t work for the Democrats: the bases are vastly different.

Republicans, by in large, will vote for a Republican even if they don’t like the candidate. I saw this a lot when I was a poll worker. They don’t even care about their platform. So long as they have an R at the end of their name, they get a vote from Republicans.

While Democrats vote Democrat, they’ll only come out to vote if they are energized. They won’t come out to vote if they don’t feel like you’ve earned it. We saw this in 2016 and 2024.

Simply put, Republicans are more reliable voters.

The Democrat tent is very large with often conflicting values. A lot of single-issue voters will simply stay home than to vote for a Democrat. Because of this, it is rare when a candidate will arise that will galvanize and coalesce the base.

The last time it happened was Obama.

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Doesn’t even have to be progressive per se, just an “Eat The Elites” party would probably do well as the one and only platform at this point.

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Y’all need an actual left of center, worker based party to undo this late stage capitalist nightmare that’s happening now

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you’re god damned right.

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*left

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Phew, a lot of their Democrats actually seem to think they sit left of the spectrum, and they already get called commies by their right wing. Their brains might split in two when they realize that their Democrats are merely another side of the same liberal coin…

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We need one, but a third party will not get the desired result. It will only subtract from whoever major party is a little more like it, in this case probably the Democrats. Sad to say: the only meaningful path forward is to change the parties from within. I know that sounds daunting and boring. But can anyone reasonably think this will be easy and fun?

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We have several.

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Need to fix the broken FPTP voting system first. Otherwise any left leaning political party will just take votes away from the dems and hand the election to the republicans.

And Republicans know this by the way, any left leaning fringe party will get financial donations from the Republican Party,

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Thank god the actual answer is already here. Now let’s please vote it above the well-meaning fantasy comments saying “yeah! do it!”

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Should you? Why shouldnt you?

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Probably doesn’t have enough money

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All part of the plan init.

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Because it will only spoil whichever major party is a little more closely aligned with it.

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Can you elaborate please, cause USA doesn’t have a real left party at the minute, does it?

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This video gives a great visual explanation of why third parties in US politics can only be spoilers. They cannot build anything.

https://youtu.be/qf7ws2DF-zk?si=WRctK96W6GrJJO2S

America already has “real left” parties like the Peace & Freedom party and the Green party. Starting yet another tiny party to occupy the left will add nothing. And trying to grow any of these third parties can only do one thing: take votes from Democrats, thereby helping Republicans.

It’s easy to say “US doesn’t have a real left party” but most people who care about that would rather not hurt Democrats and help Republicans, because Democrats are at least closer to the left out of the two major parties, even if neither is as far left as we would like.

The only option is to join the Democratic party and attempt to shift it left. This is exactly what America’s most prominent 3 leftists have done: AOC, Dennis Kucinich, and Bernie Sanders. They know that 3rd parties are a death wish. This is an objective fact. Everyone who cares about the left needs to grow up, accept this, and move on. Just like Bernie has. You don’t see him calling for a 3rd party. And he’s clearly a “real leftist” by any measure.

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