Let’s face it, the dems don’t care about the commoners, the republicans are actually pure evil, everyone was happy when that shitstain CEO got shot.

Maybe we should build on this momentum we have to drive actual change at the political level.

my first act as president in 2029 would be to issue a full and unconditional pardon of the billionaire killer.

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well alrighty then, followup question, does anyone want to join my newly formed political party? I’m going to start working on drafting our mission statement, or manifesto or whatever it should be called.

Further Edit: I set up a lemmy community for us to post shit about it. If you want to join, that’s our official, unofficial space. https://lemmy.world/c/newpoliticalparty

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Should you? Why shouldnt you?

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Probably doesn’t have enough money

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All part of the plan init.

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Because it will only spoil whichever major party is a little more closely aligned with it.

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Can you elaborate please, cause USA doesn’t have a real left party at the minute, does it?

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This video gives a great visual explanation of why third parties in US politics can only be spoilers. They cannot build anything.

https://youtu.be/qf7ws2DF-zk?si=WRctK96W6GrJJO2S

America already has “real left” parties like the Peace & Freedom party and the Green party. Starting yet another tiny party to occupy the left will add nothing. And trying to grow any of these third parties can only do one thing: take votes from Democrats, thereby helping Republicans.

It’s easy to say “US doesn’t have a real left party” but most people who care about that would rather not hurt Democrats and help Republicans, because Democrats are at least closer to the left out of the two major parties, even if neither is as far left as we would like.

The only option is to join the Democratic party and attempt to shift it left. This is exactly what America’s most prominent 3 leftists have done: AOC, Dennis Kucinich, and Bernie Sanders. They know that 3rd parties are a death wish. This is an objective fact. Everyone who cares about the left needs to grow up, accept this, and move on. Just like Bernie has. You don’t see him calling for a 3rd party. And he’s clearly a “real leftist” by any measure.

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Since you seem interested, start one. Don’t ask someone to do it for you, or for their approval. Do what you truly believe, not what others support.

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Yes

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Wouldn’t it be better to join a party that already has shitting on the rich as part of its mission? I mean the two big parties don’t have that, but some of the small ones do AFAIK.

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that’s the thing, i can’t think of any. the communist party of america is very much just full of tankies circle jerking about how ccp and north korea actually good, the green party is all about spoiling the dems and never actually do anything, the libertarians are fundamentally opposed to my political views. the only political party i can think of would be the bull moose party, but afaik they went extinct after teddy roosevelt.

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Looks like some conservative astroturf organization co-opted the name in 2022…

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sons of bitches. I wanted that name.

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AFAIK the Greens exclusively run for president because if they get 5% of the popular vote they can get federal funding. Whether that’s a good idea overall I have no idea, but there’s at least logic to their strategy.

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The progressive part is a thing I think.

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Third parties don’t work. Support progressives and progressives only in the Democratic Party. The Working Families Party is a fantastic party as well.

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fuck the democratic party. they’ve failed us, it’s time to bury the corpse.

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It would be more effective to focus on supporting a progressive candidate for the DNC chair. The prospect of establishing a viable third party is extremely challenging, given the existence of nearly 20 “progressive” third parties that have struggled to gain traction. As someone who served as the chair for the Ohio Green Party, and was a platform builder for an already defunct progressive party, I have firsthand experience with the obstacles such efforts face. I’ve learned from my mistakes. The Progressive Caucus, Justice Democrats, Working Families Party, and more are great organizations to organize with. AIPAC out-funded progressives, but now people know that AIPAC is the reason the Democratic Party is terrible, and now volunteer and donation signups for progressive orgs have raised.

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I think it would be easier to convince a few people to take out more CEOs than it would be to convince all the progressives in America that the DNC is worth investing more energy in.

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I live in oregon, and I am looking to support progressive organizations more. Do you have any resources I can use to identify which organizations here are the real deal versus ones just pretending, or ones that are totally irrelevant?

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Yeah sure, so they can rig their primaries again.

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Again, that is why we need to push for the DNC chair to be a progressive.

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Heard this for 30+ years and watched the Dems just go further right. Don’t think it works bud.

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