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My Poli sci professors and half the people I went to college with predicted most of our modern elections too.

This guy is a hack who seeks attention. The media, including CNN has talked about Trump’s lies ad nauseam. Literally right after the debate they started fact checking. And they gave Biden personal interview time to patch up his debate performance but he instead used it to show us he is out of touch and considers this either a game or a personal vendetta.

What you guys and this “historian” are actually mad about is that the media won’t cover for Biden in the same way Fox and friends cover for Trump.

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Yes…Trump was buffoon that lied though his teeth.

Biden still lost that debate in the worst possible ways.

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When it comes to that spectacle, it was all lose. Trump couldn’t answer most questions and just blah blah blahed lies with little policy and zero plan for anything. Biden did a good job showing why there should have been an actual primary season for the Democrats, but he did at least try to answer and corrected a couple of his gaffs(Biden gaffs aren’t new, but man… Dude is worn)

Everyone lost. This guy is correct, it’s mind boggling there wasn’t a week of headlines of Trump’s attack on democracy

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Biden did not correct Trump. He let Trump get away with murder. That is not CNNs fault.

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The debate just highlighted all the concerns that have been around this campaign from the start. The real nail in the coffin for Biden is the response to his terrible performance. They are sequestered and instead he needs to be out there showing the people that the debate was a one off. The fact that they aren’t getting Biden out there basically confirms that he can’t do it anymore.

Anyone that thinks Trump won that debate was almost certainly a trumper to begin with.

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If I have to see this false prophet Lichtman’s bowl cut one more time, I swear to god… Here are just a few facts about this asshole:

  • It’s really not some miracle that he got these elections right, considering he waits until last-minute to predict them.
  • He gave a full-throated endorsement of Hillary Clinton… only to predict she’d lose later on in the race.
  • He hasn’t given his fucking prediction for THIS cycle yet.
  • Even based on his own “keys,” he is not remaining impartial because he has no idea whether an alternative candidate would get all the keys just the same.
  • He inflates incumbency despite Biden’s 37% approval-rating and losing pre and post-first debate in polls… Which if you look at historical trends, that NEVER bodes well for the incumbent.

By the way I emailed this shithead challenging his methodology (and I remained much more neutral than this) to no response. In fact I wouldn’t be the least-bit surprised if the only reason he wants Biden to remain the nominee is to ensure he maintains record for election predictions by later predicting his easy defeat.

Nate Silver has a far more predictive, mathematical model than this dumb fuck. He can Lichtma balls. (ok that last one I just had to out of adolescent gallows humor, but he threw the first punch with name-calling those wanting Biden to step down).

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We are long past the point where it would have been feasible for Biden to withdraw. We were past that point well before the first debate. It is too late to get somebody else on the ballot in many states, including states that then Dems potentially need, like Nevada.

Anybody still repeating the line that Biden needs to withdraw is either:

  1. Ignorant of how election law works

  2. A bad actor, pushing right wing/Russian talking points.

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lol says who? I can name Senators, US House representatives, senior strategists for Obama, even a former DNC Chair who fucking say otherwise. Don’t bullshit me.

You’re not just wrong, you may very well be outright lying. Now show me your evidence or walk away.

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You can argue that it’s not a good idea for Biden to withdraw. That doesnt make people who think the opposite either Russian operatives or ignorant of election law. It just does not.

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Does that make Biden a Russian disinformation agent for blowing the debate?

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2 points

Any other explanations?

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6 points

Agreed. It’s too late to promote some lesser known candidate enough to compete with the frothing rotten cult of personality stench that surrounds the orange rapist.

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0 points

No it’s not. The last brokered convention was in 1952, it can happen again.

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A long shot is better than no shot; but I suspect a bad actor pushing Russian talking points such as yourself does know this.

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TIL Jon Stewart is either ignorant or a bad actor. Does no one know how to read a poll?

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Polls are massively inaccurate. Not just because of some sigma six level quantitative analysis, but because of the methodology.

People 45 and under don’t answer the phone. When my phone rings I immediately block the person forever unless it’s a contact as do most people that are millennials and younger. So pollsters rely on who answers the phone, which is usually angry grandpa.

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None of that makes him wrong about this.

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Yes, it actually does.

That’s kind of — you know — the point.

Your response is like literally finger-in-ear, head-in-sand denial.

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You haven’t seen the press eat up every other utterance from Trump’s mouth in the past 8 years? They report on every little thing he does because it creates ratings and clicks.

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The Democratic Party cannot fail us.

It is only us who can fail the Democratic Party.

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So literally anything the Democratic party does is acceptable?

Because that’s what it sounds like you’re saying

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Acceptable to whom?

Obviously the strategy of voter shaming is acceptable to a lot of people.

I despise voter shaming. The politicians have to EARN our votes. Always. No exceptions.

Some folks are trying to flip this dynamic on its head, where the politician will do nice policies but only if we’re going to be good little boys and girls, shut up, stop making demands, and just vote for the billionaire-approved functionary.

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The politicians have to EARN our votes. Always. No exceptions.

Only up until this exception: When the neofascist movement captures America. Then they won’t even need our votes, let alone earn them.

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It’s sarcasm, but we’re in a tight spot where the Democratic party can get pretty bad before we should drop them.

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We can’t drop them till there as bad or worse than Republicans. But we need to actually show some solidarity and engagement to get them to work to be better than Republicans and better than they are. Which most leftists are loathe to do. If we’re going to have a path to rank choice voting, multi-party systems, and more small d democratic representation. The path to that is through Democrats.

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The democratic party had consistently failed us, at least since the continuation Reaganism under the Clinton administration, but that’s just my lifetime and probably started before then.

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FDR is prolly the only guy that ever cared about American wage slave… Since then it has been down hill for us.

However, whatever happened since Reagan is straight abusive husband bullshit vibes. Life is untenable for likely over half the country and when people voices their complaints, they get mocked for not understanding “the economy” whole having some number showed in their faces explaining how their wages went up.

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Please, get off your computer. Go outside and talk to some real, average, people in your life. This is NOT a healthy thing to believe. You need help if this is how you really feel about life.

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The Democratic Party cannot fail us.
It is only us who can fail the Democratic Party.

– Bernie Sanders?

/s

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Wow. That’s either a textbook cult member/apparatchik mindset or an excellent sarcastic jab at that of others. Please be the latter 🤞

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Well, that certainly is one interpretation.

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Some of y’all really need a /s tag I guess

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2 points

Or the “jokes” need to be funny so I don’t remove them from visibility for being trash

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8 points

They have had a handful of interesting takes this past few days

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Did you drop this “/s”?

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Biden is not that great

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Who said Biden was great?

The vote is between fascism and not fascism. The representatives for those choices is just a sponsored popularity contest.

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Biden failed to push back against Trump during the interview. This is not on CNN.

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Again, I don’t care about either the debate or the interview, that’s all part of the sponsored popularity contest.

If what you meant in your initial comment was that Biden wasn’t great in the interview I suggest you write what you mean next time, as it stands it reads as a general indictment on the man, and when you consider the opponent it’s totally irrelevant.

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Nice strawman you’ve constructed there but the joke’s on you, there isn’t a single Democrat who thinks Biden is “great” – we all just think he’s not as much of a piece of absolute human shit that Trump is.

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I’m a democrat. I think Biden is great. He’s done an amazing job, and I think his wins will continue.

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Why do you and other Centrists keep saying that as if us on the Left don’t know, and as if that will get us to vote for Biden? Everyone knows Trump is the worst. There’s literally over 100 million people in the US that would be a better choice than Trump. Why should Biden get the vote out of all of them? “Because he’s the nominee” “there’s not enough time for a replacement” “some states are dumb and won’t change the ballot in time” don’t give a fuck. Why should Biden get my vote?

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Good to know that it’s the bar for being able to run one of the most powerful countries. “Not as much of a piece of shit as Trump”.

Shouldn’t a person need to be"Great" to be elected president?

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Trump is a lot less great than that.

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