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.world is in the EU. The same laws that apply to inciting hate or violence against “The Jews” or “The Blacks” also apply to “The CEOs”. And the same laws that apply to Facebook also apply to lemmy.

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I don’t think it has much to do with ethics in the usual sense. It’s all about tribal allegiance. Facebook and the like are the enemy. Anything that seems to bother the enemy is cheered. There is no thought that laws apply generally. It reminds me of that old internet meme about conservatism. There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

I think you could make a serious argument that the CEO killing was self-defense. But it’s not going to really change anything. Maybe the successor is less ruthless but they will be making decisions in the same social context; facing the same incentives and disincentives.

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I can think of one disincentive in particular they probably wouldn’t have considered before a couple days ago

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CEO is not an identity, nor minority. It’s a political and economical position

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That’s not how the law works.

If anyone wants it a little more precise. Lemmy.world claims Dutch and German jurisdiction. An English translation of one relevant German statute may be found here (§130, but also note §131): https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_stgb/englisch_stgb.html#p1368

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Yeah but i don’t care abt the law

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It should be unnecessary to point this out, but here we are

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No. From the Case of Savva Terentyev v. Russia (police) of the European Court of Human Rights:

76.  The Court further considers that the police, a law-enforcement public agency, can hardly be described as an unprotected minority or group that has a history of oppression or inequality, or that faces deep-rooted prejudices, hostility and discrimination, or that is vulnerable for some other reason, and thus may, in principle, need a heightened protection from attacks committed by insult, holding up to ridicule or slander

ACAB, for pigs and CEOs.

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Won’t someone think of the poor CEOs!?

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I was born into a poor family if genetic CEOs. We’ve lost our ancestral claims to the shareholders. We used to conduct layoffs from the Urals to the Black Sea. Not anymore.

We were a proud people, passing down strong CEO genes.

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Sounds just like a Cuban expat pining over their lost family plantation.

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@EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

Come and get 'em

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The poor News mods here are looking forward to mundane Spam removals at this point.

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Insurance companies hate this one weird trick! Find out more at spamwebsite.tk!

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Fuck 'em.

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How about mundane spelling mistake bans?

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I think this is as funny as the next person but realistically what will change?

Won’t they just elect another scumbag and keep going?

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Well, if you don’t wanna celebrate a monster dying just for the sake of it, we can look at it from an environnent perspective, taking that pos out did more for the environnent than Green Peace has in the last 10 years.

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The assassination reminded us that they are not some sort of incorporeal beings, but that they can be killed.

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At least some health insurance companies are temporarily easing up on denials or pausing shitty policies like limiting anthensia coverage during surgery.

That alone could save a few hundred lives, even if just for a little while.

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What a deranged thing to attempt by BCBS.

It was Anthem.

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My bad. Anthem is BCBS.

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Nothing will change unless it becomes a recurring and common thing.

How many people can actually pull off a successful assassination of a wealthy person? Not many, especially now that security is going to go up.

Nothing will change, but at least that one guy got some revenge.

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Assassinating is so easy a child could do it. It’s getting away with it that’s hard.

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not a problem for people with nothing left to lose.

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just wait until Republicans suddenly turn anti-2A

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If only it were easier to organize into teams without being infiltrated by disguised fed boys, but only the right is allowed to do that.

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And that one guy got his comeuppance

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I mean that’s a fair thought.

But even by USA capitalist standards, this specific man was a monster who in a just world wouldn’t be allowed to be in charge of anything. The world is slightly better off without such a greedy and heartless man in it.

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Hard to predict.

This act broke the taboo against violence and shattered the perception of powerlessness. Turns out there is something you can do against these assholes, and it’s not as unpopular an option as you might have expected.

It may inspire imitation, emboldening other pissed victims. It may scare the other CEOs into treading more carefully. It might embolden progressive politicians to challenge the status quo, now that they see how popular that can be.

Or it might end up a big ball of hot air that doesn’t do anything. Like I said, hard to predict.

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If all the disaffected white teens stopped shooting up schools and started shooting CEOs, it’s not healthy, but they would be channeling their anger in a better direction.

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Yes, your advocating for killing the entire board of directors is the right move. Another route would be to kill off all of the large institutional investors like fidelity, JP Morgan etc who put that board in place. But that’s about where the buck stops. Sadly those people are better at being faceless so it’s harder, but it would also work for all public companies (for example Boeing, or John Deere, or all of the other more notably evil companies lately)

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Not if something also happens to the next one and the following one and so on.

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I think it’s a precedent, CEOs actually have something to fear aside from their job. Which usually fails upward with a good serverance package. This is also a sign that the Government and the laws of the land no longer works for the people. It’s a good and a bad thing either way. Personally I think it’s a huge mistake we made companies as a person. I think this is were the root cause is. Since it disconnects the accountability of the people working especially the higher ups.

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If they’re a person it should go all the way. They should be able to go on trial for homicide. Some states still have the death penalty for people. Disband the company if it commits serious crimes.

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While still jailing those who made the decisions and performed the illegal actions.

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I think they’ll all get their companies to pay for security details and armored cars. It’ll make them feel even more self-important.

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Then hopefully someone shows security details and armored cars are easily taken care of with homemade devices.

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Something something and I’m tired of pretending it isn’t, etc. The only thing I feel bad about is if he has had young children who couldn’t understand he was a waste of skin, they have my sympathy.

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His kids have been profiting off of the death he had a hand in. They’ll be just fine in their ivory towers, whatever happens.

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Feel worse for the millions of children that are parentless due to his policy decisions. His kids will be FINE.

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yeah alls his theoretical kids would have is millions of dollars, the best education, a lavish lifestyle, trust funds, but they would not have their asshole dad.

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They aren’t theoretical, he did have children.

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I would honestly go so far as to suggest that in the long term, not having this monster raise them (given they’ll still have plenty of money) probably leaves them better off.

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These execs are scared their own children will ask them to explain what they do for a living. Doubt they raise their kids as much as they pay someone else to do it. That being said, Elmo’s kids are stuck on a compound. That’s definitely going to mess them up.

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They’re already teenagers. The damage has been done, but hopefully this act will help them decide not to follow in their father’s footsteps.

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Don’t forget the children whose siblings died due to insurance fuckery, and the parents who’ve lost children.

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Crying from the 3rd floor of their yacht…

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Everybody who sees the hitman as a social justice vigilante is gonna report back here when we find out it was some personal bullshit, right?

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Yes it was fucking personal. Maybe he lost someone because of the company. Either way social justice IS personal, for all of us. Wether you believe it or not, injustice affects all of us

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What “personal bullshit” would lead to Deny, Depose, Defend?

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Oh no, stop, don’t do the right thing for the wrong reason

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If it turns out he was a shareholder disappointed with his latest dividend, yes I would be sad. That’s my line.

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