President Joe Biden could make a decision within days whether to remain a candidate for reelection, said Hawaii’s governor who participated in a recent meeting with Biden and other Democratic governors and whose family has known the president for years.
And if Biden decides not to run, Hawaii Gov. Josh Green told The Associated Press on Saturday that he believes the president will designate Vice President Kamala Harris to replace him on the ticket.
Green, who was a physician on Hawaii’s Big Island before he was elected governor, said everyone has parents or grandparents who have moments that aren’t that great or pauses in their ability to express themselves clearly. But, he added, they aren’t discarded because of their experience, wisdom and their role in the family.
Green was quick to point out that Trump is only three years younger than Biden and both will have bad days going forward. But he argued that temperament is more important than age.
“For God’s sake, these two guys have to hold the nuclear codes,” Green said. “I don’t want someone who tweets in the middle of the night and rages at other countries. That is not good. That’s not the problem we have with President Biden.”
And if Biden decides not to run, Hawaii Gov. Josh Green told The Associated Press on Saturday that he believes the president will designate Vice President Kamala Harris to replace him on the ticket.
If that happens, prepare to see the narrative of certain people switch from “no one should vote for Genocide Joe” to “no one should vote for pro-cop Harris.” Anything but tell people to stop the dictator from gaining power.
Edit: Wow, that didn’t take long.
This effectively changes nothing for me, I’m no fan of Harris or Biden, but they ain’t fascists
You are not the problem. Some people can’t decide between Joe, and the party that wants to end democracy in this country.
Some people are upset that in the face of fascism, this is the best the American ‘left’ can do. They claim the entire country is on the line, but I haven’t seen them act like it. I’ve seen them say we need to vote for Biden, because abortion!! Roe V Wade was undone under his leadership and he has done nothing about it. He adopted extremist conservative border policy. The Supreme Court decision everybody is clamoring about happened while he was in the big chair. So why does he deserve my vote? Why would voting for him change anything when some of the most consequential and damaging legislation of the 2000s has happened under him?
All I ask of people is vote for anything but trump. A sack of potato chips is better.
Not good enough. You have to vote for the person most likely to beat him. It’s a numbers game.
Wrong. A vote for Stein, or RFK, or West is still effectively a vote for Trump.
If you live in a swing state. If your state is solidly red or blue, due to the electoral college, you vote effectively doesn’t matter.
I kind of don’t have an issue with third party voters when it comes to places where a handful of third party votes won’t change the EC outcome.
We don’t have to prepare for it, it’s already happening, at least on Lemmy.
have y’all ever been racially profiled while driving, got pulled over, and had your stuff thrown in the mud?
since it was a terry stop the judge considered 100% on board even with video proof
prosecutor as president is the last thing this country needs
yeah we gotta go talk show host or game show host, much smarter, very big brain.
No one’s saying this isn’t a problem. You just have to vote blue, because the alternative is you get thrown in the mud, and then shot.
Yup. Not only that, but the attacks from the GOP and media won’t stop. They will simply change from “Biden is too old” to racist garbage like “Harris might be our first DEI president” (That’s an actual headline from the NY Post, which I refuse to link to).
No matter what happens, Democrats will need thick skin.
I’m not worried about Republicans. I’m worried about the people below who have already decided “don’t vote for Harris” before she’s even nominated. No candidate will be good enough for them because no candidate could ever pass the purity test. It could be a Bernie Sanders/AOC ticket and they’d find a reason to say you shouldn’t vote for them.
She’s also not a white male, so I fully expect them to go all out saying that execrable shit out loud.
I am not pro-Biden, but I’d vote for Harris. I think she’s a stronger candidate.
She’s a marginally better candidate if he endorses her enthusiastically. She’s deeply flawed and unpopular but if Biden gives her credit for everything he accomplished she’d be trading “absolutely ancient” for “former uncharismatic prosecutor”.
There are much better choices.
there are much better choices.
the problem is that none of them decided to primary the incumbent successful democratic party president.
so it’s biden at the top of the ticket. if you didn’t want biden to be the 2024 candidate, you should have worked harder to get another democrat nominated in 2020.
If Joe Biden drops out the orange felon will definitely win, says the guy who has an impeccable track record using an amazing methodology that he developed from earth quake prediction.
Pushing Kamala is one way I see to guarantee a loss. People don’t like Joe, but people fucking HATE Kamala. We would be so fucked if she was the ticket
Well personally, I don’t want an openly fascist raving lunatic to be US president, but that’s just me, of course.
That sounds more like Trump than Biden. The trouble is Trump is probably what we’ll get if Biden doesn’t suck it up and drop out of the race.
It’s impossible to tell without knowing whether you’re taking to a Trump cultist.
I don’t think we’ll fare any better if Harris gets the nomination either. I don’t understand why the party keeps backing the most unlikable candidates possible over and over and over.
I have wondered how it would be possible to change the ticket into anyone else but Harris at this late stage. There is no time to do a new set of primaries. Harris is at least the VP on the ticket and the person whose job it would be to step in for Biden anyway.
How could he just designate some random person and everyone who voted Biden just has to go with it?
he’s already decided.
he decided a week ago.
you backhandedly calling for him to drop out only fuels the bullshit media narrative that’s not focused on trump’s myriad of seriously disqualifying incidents OR project 2025.
I’d rather have the media talk about Biden than give Trump EVEN MORE attention. The psychology of advertising has shown that the cliche “All publicity is good publicity” is literally true on a population scale of at least a few thousand. Discussing Biden on the news cycle, positively or negatively, makes him more likely to win more votes. That’s why he will not and should not drop out now.
To be clear: I wish he had stepped aside for a different democratic candidate in 2020. But since then, I don’t believe there was ever a good time to shift attention to a replacement who would be popular enough to beat Trump.
Maybe I’m extremely cynical, but unless it was like Bernie Sanders (which we all know they wouldn’t allow to replace Biden) I don’t think it will matter much if he leaves or stays.
If he leaves, Trump will win, enact project 2025, jail political opponents, then murder them, then other massacres and mass imprisonment will occur amongst “unamericans.”
If he stays, Trump is less likely to win, but the Nazis didn’t take over Germany peacefully. For all the lethal defense systems the White House has, it doesn’t matter against sheer numbers of stupid people. The only way this works is if a significant majority of Americans say no to trump, and and oppose a coup. This won’t happen.
I think if you live in a state that will be directly impacted by project 2025 (most states, some northern ones have no shale oil and have no immediate plans) shits gonna get real shitty real quickly.
I also think this will become an era of true fuck around and find out. The blue states can refuse to fund the U.S. government. Good luck getting the military to do anything if they don’t get paid.
If Trump wins it will be a political coup followed by a military junta within a few years once it becomes clear how badly Trumps plans really fuck the overall economy.
On the bright side - cheaper real estate?
(Current living standard not guaranteed)
I don’t understand this. Biden already said he didn’t plan to drop out.
