Summary

Billionaires like Marc Andreessen, Elon Musk, and Vivek Ramaswamy are spreading false claims to discredit the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB), a federal agency protecting consumers from fraud and abuse.

Andreessen falsely accused the CFPB of politically motivated “debanking,” despite no evidence.

This rhetoric aligns with the “DOGE” project, led by Musk and Ramaswamy, which aims to slash government regulations and programs under the guise of efficiency.

Critics warn this effort will harm public services, benefit billionaires, and push privatization at the expense of ordinary Americans.

51 points

Americans will not destroy the military or the police state. We need those to do harm against our enemies and to punish the undeserving.

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37 points

You don’t understand. You make them non-functional through incompetency first, then change their purpose and voila…neither.

Then you pay Elon Musk for fleets of Tesla robots that don’t work to do your dirty work 🤣

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14 points

From what I’ve seen under Eric Adams in New York, you never actually lay any of these people off. You just bring in a robot that bumbles around a subway terminal until it breaks down, while a squad of officers guard it with lethal force.

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Oh no, what will we do if billionaires control the U.S. government.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_of_1893 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_of_1907

And those are just J.P. Morgan.

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29 points

Is your point that this is fear mongering, or that the struggle between classes has been an ongoing fight for most of recorded history?

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The latter. I mean, America was founded by a tobacco company and people so weird in their religiosity, they were kicked out of 17th century Europe.

I do think we can solve the oligarch problem. So, part of me was like, “We’ve met this challenge before, motherfuckers.” It wasn’t meant to dismissive but I’m pretty sure I could open hand slap Elon Musk and 24 of his 38 kids would feel it.

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Wish I had your optimism. Hand it over.

On a more serious note, I truly believe that enriching & modernizing our education system is the way to go for dethroning our billionaire overlords. We can’t just expect slap dash imploding submarines to do all the work.

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An enemy of my enemy is my friend.

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Are you crazy enough to be implying that your own government is your enemy? Public administration is necessary to any kind of social coordination and the reason you were able to leave that comment

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Yes. Pick up a history book, study the constitution, the bill or rights, and you’ll see that the founders were also crazy enough.

The billionaires in this country may have many monopolies but the US Government has the monopoly on violance. Counter to what Starship Troopers would lead you to believe, all power is derived from violence.

You are also wrong about public administration being necessary for social coordination and again you only need a history book to see this.

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I’m not from the US, so I don’t care about your founders.

History books, and biology as well mind you, actually say that the actions of a group of individuals working together have more power than those of individuals working alone, and in any coordinated effort there is a subsection of the group that takes care of the whole and marks the pace. Throughout history the civilizations that managed to thrive and leave their mark were those whose governing body was efficient and effective, and there’s no denying that. You may be able to wrangle your friends and coordinate them without a specific administrative role, but try doing that with a group of people surpassing the hundreds of millions and you will have a problem.

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Ah, the enlightened libertarian

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The founders would routinely rape their slaves and participated in scalping. They were day drunk all the time because one of the best ways to clean water was to make it into beer. They didn’t believe in bathing, they thought washing the grime off would let the bad airs in and make them sick.

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22 points

Pick up a history book

Collective action (government) is the only thing preventing you from being ruled by someone else’s collective action

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Yeah, takes like this are crazy. Is the government my enemy? In the sense that we’re spiraling towards a fascist regime with an incoming administration that has members who have literally called for “a genocide of trans people,” absolutely.

But that’s an issue of the government falling apart due to the kinds of people who would be the warmongers lording over the Libertarian paradise that most of these people call for with their PMC, not because the government simply exists. And this branch in particular is one of the ones doing the most to protect the common person from those same warmonger wannabes.

Without branches like this, companies would be dumping chemical waste upriver of towns again.

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Can you show me the calls for genocide of trans people, please? I’m struggling to understand the rest of what you said, regarding warmongering lords, and Libertarian (as in Libertarian political party?) paradise? 🤔

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As an Anarchist I also hate the government, however this will not bring anything good. Maybe in a best case scenario they could destroyed the government and then accedently destroy themselves but thats useless without a complex network of left wing organizations that could replace the government.

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I don’t hate the government but I understand that we aren’t friends. I don’t hate billionaires or businesses but I understand that they aren’t my friends. When it comes to the most dangerous entities, it’s governments first, then businesses and billionaires.

Nazi Germany was a government. Volkswagen and IBM were companies, and one of the wealthiest people in that place and time was Friedrich Flick. Friedrich was a shithead but Nazi Germany didn’t join the Friedrich fan club, instead Friedrich joined the Nazi fan club. Hitler wasn’t trying to be a CEO or a millionaire he was reaching for government power.

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Government is the easiest thing to corrupt, and that corruption is billionaires. The only reason they exist while 90% are living paycheck to paycheck is that the government is either absent or is not functioning properly.

Agreed to the fact the Nazi Germany was a government but far worse was feudalism. Government with unbridled billionaires and businesses is just that with extra steps. Jsut to make ot palatable for the modern senses.

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Yawn. We are letting it happen. Remove them or else.

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You really think those fuckheads are going to kill their cash cow?

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13 points

There’s always profit to be extracted, especially from slaves.

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Why bother with the middleman?

~Bezos

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Because as it stands right now there are rules to be followed to get maximum payout. After the orange fuckwad is seated that could change but only time will tell

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Sometimes history shows oligarchs breaking stuff to make more money for themselves: trade patterns, movement of people, social safety nets, previous methods of doing business.

I think we all got so used to the modern times that it’s hard to image this still happening, but on a bigger scale.

Or, it could be mostly empty threats now, designed to manipulate the markets. We saw Trump scares during his last term in office, particularly near the end, that would deliberately scare enough people to make bank in stocks and bonds. Scaring a nation is very profitable.

Probably both types of things.

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