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I worry that they’ll just open a can of worms and fuck up our farm bill access.

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Crime Bill Biden ran out the clock on purpose. He never had any intention to reschedule cannabis.

NONE.

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The only meaningful change for this would be via legislation, otherwise trump can just as easily undo it the same day.

Edit: looks like the process is much more complicated and actually Biden already started the process at the beginning of this year (April): https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/update-deas-efforts-reschedule-cannabis-what-you-need-know-2024-09-11/ , I don’t understand this article

Edit 2: the letter is actually asking him to try to hurry the process up (the article from September that I linked says there supposed to be hearing scheduled this Monday (Dec 2nd)). It is very misleading (as you can see from the comments), because it implies Biden is just ignoring this issue completely.

https://lee.house.gov/imo/media/doc/letter_to_biden_admin_re_marijuana.pdf

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looks like the process is much more complicated and actually Biden already started the process at the beginning of this year

Right. He waited until it couldn’t be completed until after the end of his term. On purpose. He ran out the clock. On purpose.

He never wanted to reschedule cannabis and dragged his feet until he didn’t have to.

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He actually started the process to review what it was scheduled as to get it changed in 2022. It like everything else surrounding our government takes forever.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-submits-proposed-regulation-reschedule-marijuana

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It like everything else surrounding our government takes forever.

Unless of course it’s something he wants to do, like sell weapons for an ongoing genocide. Then all bureaucracy evaporates into nothingness.

His hands are untied when he wants them to be.

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Everything with government doesn’t have to be slow, but congress wrote this bill so that two successive presidents would have to keep pursuing it.

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Trump can just undo it anyway. What’s the point. And saying that’s not how its done is pointless cause they don’t play by the rules.

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The CSA requires that such actions be made through formal rulemaking on the record after opportunity for a hearing.

Y’all still haven’t learned that the US president isn’t god king, hu? He can’t just do shit by fiat.

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You still haven’t learned that US legal precedent is God king. New rules dropped, presidential acts are all the rage. Biden just has to say those two words and he can regulate how long your ball hair is allowed to be.

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All that needs to happen is for SCOTUS to agree.

Should be easy 👍

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No the Democrats haven’t learned that, and are still taking the high ground.

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The time to do that really would have been before the election… He did reschedule it, but that can be undone day one. I honestly think the fascist voters would credit Trump. I’ve heard them say “already things are getting better” with no hint of irony.

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He did reschedule it

He did not. Cannabis is still Schedule I.

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He started the multi-year process to do it.

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When he knew it was too late to finish it during his term. He ran out the clock.

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Damn you’re right, they did start the process, but the DEA pushed it back to 2025 after originally expecting it this year.

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The DEA whose head Biden appointed decided to wait until the next president could block it?

I wonder if Biden ran it by Joe Manchin or the senate parliamentarian first.

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Isn’t it already ruled he has presidential immunity? Why isn’t he doing more? I understand he has some time but like… I hope there’s at least a “welcome package” for trump. I have no faith in anything anymore

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Yeah. All faith in democrats wanting to do the BAREST MINIMUM to make a difference is flat out gone. Both sides apparently want the poor dead or in prison. Republicans are just gonna make it happen faster.

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Its only immune if the supreme court deems it an official act. This court will not give him the same leeway as they will Trump.

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He was never going to do it and never will.

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Do what? Pardon people from state crimes, which he cannot do. Or write legislation making marijuana legal, which he can’t do?

The reason charges for drugs are different in every state is because they are state laws, tried by those states.

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Do what?

Reschedule cannabis.

Stop making excuses.

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The CSA requires that such actions be made through formal rulemaking on the record after opportunity for a hearing.

Y’all still haven’t learned that the US president isn’t god king, hu? He can’t just do shit by fiat.

On another note, I want to call out this link where we can evidently watch the proceedings Dec 2, 0900-1700 (assuming that’s EST): www.DEA.gov/live

Edit: I just read the letter (.pdf warning) and it basically contains 2 asks:

  1. Expand clemency for those with weed convictions.
  2. Issue an updated memo which would de-prioritize seizing weed and prosecuting individuals and businesses for state-legal weed activity.

I don’t disagree. This just isn’t the silver bullet many here seem to think it is.

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Reschedule. Plain and simple

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How?

The HHS is a deciding factor with set rules created by Congress. To change it would be invalid and blocked by any judge before going into effect. Destroying the credibility of what was occuring and killing it in its tracks when it could otherwise finish. Trump doesn’t want to stop that, neither does Kennedy (Pretty sure he’s for it)

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Except it is still federally illegal so the FBI DEA can arrest and charge you. So far presidents have basicslly ignored it. But doesn’t mean a future administration well.

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Yeah, that’s why Biden started the process of having them re-evaluate what it was scheduled as. But to make it legal, the legislative branch has to write the legislation.

All the executive branch is supposed to do is execute legislation.

Those orders being what is written by the peoples representatives (Congressmen and senators).

Right now either:

A: the majority of Americans don’t want marijuana legal and that’s why it’s illegal.

B. The representatives are not representing what the people want.

If the second one is true, it is our civic responsibility to vote those representatives out of office.

https://www.businessinsider.com/3-republicans-legalize-marijuana-cannabis-2-democrats-vote-against-2022-4

In 2020 and 2022 the decriminalization of it was voted on. If this is an issue you believe is misrepresented, every member of congress that voted against what you want you should want removed.

Then we need to look at the Senate and vote against every member who voted against it as well.

That’s how the peoples voices are supposed to be heard. Is it the best system, no. But it’s what we have and we don’t have enough people wanting to change it.

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