Summary

President Biden recently authorized Ukraine to use longer-range U.S. missiles to strike inside Russia, marking a small but overdue escalation in the conflict.

This decision aims to disrupt Russia’s military operations and bolster Ukraine’s position, especially with the potential Trump administration favoring pro-Russian policies.

Russia’s retaliatory missile strike on Ukraine, though deadly, represents more of the same tactics.

Analysts argue Biden’s earlier caution was excessive, and calling Russia’s nuclear bluffs is strategically necessary to counter further extortion.

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Triggering WWIII with other nuclear powers is the right thing to do?

It gets easier by the day to manufacture consent

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TIL triggering ww3 is when you don’t allow one nation to invade and conquer another.

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You consistently have the most brain dead takes on Lemmy, bravo

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Because I won’t contribute to your echo chamber?

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And enabling authoritarian regimes to do what they want is the right thing to do? Fuck you.

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Oh, it’s the edgelord who is fighting an imaginary battle on the internet. How’s that been going for ya, champ?

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You do not hold elections during a war if your constitution says so. Many countries do it this way. Russia can hold as many elections as it wants because those are not real elections.

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Supposing all of that were true, it wouldn’t matter.

Defending Ukraine against unprovoked foreign aggression would still be the right thing to do. Because a free Ukraine can eventually have a better government. An occupied Ukraine cannot.

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reason: Russian Propaganda

It doesn’t matter whether it’s true or false, it’s enough that Russians are also saying it.

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I guess we should just stab Ukraine in the back then, right? I mean, screw those people, who cares, right? Is that what you’re saying?

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The US has been screwing them using Ukrainians as human shields to fight their proxy war.

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How exactly does that answer what I said? What should we do? Abandon Ukraine, and let Russia take it over? Do not proselytize please. Examine the situation and come up with a course of action.

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This decision is leading to another 90K NK troops and possible Yemen might send troops as well. The perpetual agitation of escalation cant be anymore clear. Yeah Russia deserves this but in no way is this not escalation.

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Ukraine is defending themselves. Russia is the one escalating and has been since the invasion.

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No one is arguing that. What Biden stupid ass did before he leaves office is the same he has done since the war started. Escalation!

You’re arguing that now, lol.

And you’re blaming Biden for Russia invading Ukraine?

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Well that’s a shit opinion not supported by foreign policy experts. And the US puppet government he’s running in Ukraine is largely made up of Nazis.

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Source: my Russian propaganda, bro.

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With a jewish comedian at the top

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Biden isn’t escalating the war, he is slow-walking the aid. Too much to die, too little to live, as the Ukrainians say. If you give Russia 9 months to pull critical assests out of range and only allow strikes deep into Russia after a whole nother nations enters the war on the side of Russia, you can’t frame that as escalatory, no matter how much Putin bitches and moans.

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I think it’s pretty clearly the goal of NATO to keep Russia stuck in a prolonged war in Ukraine, which it’s been very successful so far.

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I think they’ve given them far too little for that. Russians keep gaining territory which will eventually break the Ukrainian morale. If the line doesn’t move or moves back a bit that’s a whole other perspective.

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Hmmm. My idea of the process is a little different. Embedded CIA reports to the DOD on daily to and fro of the war. What the Ukrainians needed yesterday isn’t necessarily what they will need tomorrow. Wars evolve. The DOD takes this information and projects future needs leading to a budget recommendation to Congress. Congress creates a budget bill and passes it. Johnson sitting on that bill, BTW, put Ukraine behind the 8 ball. Biden uses that allocation to buy weapons per the DOD recommendations. Rules placed on weapons use, such as not using US missiles on Russian ground, are meant to stop escalation into NATO entering into the conflict. In fact when that rule ochanged there was an escalation, but not involving NATO, yet.

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It’s way too late. Unless we are pro-war now it would’ve been better to make a peace plan before the other guy is in office.

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The only peace plan is the Ukraine disposing Putin.

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Which will only happen if we have WW3. Let’s be honest.

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I’m actually pretty doubtful that Russia still has much of a nuclear capacity. Maintaining a nuclear arsenal is very expensive, and the Russian oligarchs have been embezzling massive amounts of money from the military.

They’ve had to resort to asking NK for help, so I don’t think they have a good chance of winning the current conflict, much less an actual NATO power.

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So the options are WW3 or cede Ukraine to Russia.

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Russia isn’t starting WW3, because there’s literally no possible way for them to survive doing that.

They can’t even beat Ukraine in a straight fight, and they know it. They are woefully ill equipped to take on all of NATO.

No matter how much damage they could potentially do if they tried, the ending is guaranteed; Russia and its current leadership do not exist.

The Russian leadership are vain, greedy, and power hungry, and the thing about those traits is they make you very, very averse to personal risk. They’re not going to take any action that puts them in the firing line.

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ATACM on his train might do it

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