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And he isn’t mainstream taboo in the rest of the world because he only killed Europeans. What’s your point? People cosplay as Nazi for shits and giggles in places where the Nazi had no impact at all. But go cosplay as emperor Hirohito in China while waving the Japanese Naval flag and see how well you’d be treated. While nobody outside of the Asian pacific would give a damn or even know who he is.

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I just walk around with a unit 731 patch when I’m in the Asian pacific…

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I’m not sure why people are struggling with this one. The reason Hitler is at the top of the evil ruler foodchain is because of his ideology and specific intent.

He wasn’t some common racist who thought his own race was superior and others were inferior. He specifically believed that Jews (as well as Roma people, gays and lesbians, people with disabilities and mental illnesses) were vermin. Worse than insects. He openly made it his goal the complete annihilation of all these peoples who he hated with all the virulent, vitriolic, frothing-at-the-mouth passion he could possibly muster. He engineered the industrial killing of over 11 million people.

There is no other person more deserving of the label “enemy of humanity” than Hitler. There is absolutely nothing for which any decent person can relate to him, never mind understand him.

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I can understand that he was fucking nuts.

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You forgot “Slavs” who he saw as slightly better than vermin iirc.

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Are you sure it isn’t because of who has influence in media in the West? Last I checked Zimbabwean blacks don’t have significant influence in media in the US.

Cecil Rhodes would threaten to chop off your children’s arms if you didn’t work harder. Don’t pretend Hitler has a monopoly on unrelatability.

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Cecil Rhodes didn’t start a world war. Considering the scope of impact is important.

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The saddest part is what Hitler thought/did was commonplace throughout human history. People have been genociding and exterminating people they deem lesser since the beginning.

He’s only seen as this abhorrent in modern times.

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Yes, this is why we all adore the Japanese Empire. /s

It’s fucking ridiculous that we’re trying to “EVERYONE ELSE WAS JUST AS BAD” Hitler now.

“I literally see no difference between the Nazis and the anti-Nazis” - words of the fucking deranged.

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I’ll probably (and rightly) get downvoted for asking this but was Churchill’s crime. Does it have to do with how he treated Ireland?

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Instituted policies that led to mass famine / genocide in South Asia.

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He caused massive famines across India just to fill coffers of the British empire. 6 million people at a conservative estimate

Destroyed Bengal and Bangladesh

Ask most Indians- Churchill and mother Theresa are two of the most hated people in our history

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Churchill fought with the Spanish trying to crush the independence movement in Cuba in the 1895 Cuban War of Independence.

He wanted to fight against the Pashtun Mohmand tribe in north-west India, but was assigned a position as a journalist rather than a combat position.

He also fought for the British army against the Boer republics in the Second Boer War.

It’s not like this guy was just idly opining about race and imperialism, he was enthusiastically engaging in the violent wars as a soldier to further those imperialist conquests. I’m sure as a politician he played an important role in preserving those power dynamics as well (alas I’m no expert on Churchill and I’m only reading about him because of this post).

That said, the original post was only pointing out that Churchill would be taboo if his racism and imperialism victimized Europeans, and I would agree that this is more likely to make him taboo. We see this kind of logic with how the conflicts in Syria are treated differently than the conflicts in Ukraine. I think people are willing to overlook imperialism and racist violence when it doesn’t impact white people.

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Leopold was rightfully viewed as a monster by his racist contemporaries. I don’t think anybody sane is lionizing that guy.

Edit: They do and did lionize Henry Morton Stanley who helped set up Leopold’s death machine. And his contemporaries made him persona non grata over it as well, even though history somewhat gave him a pass and made movies about him.

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