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Looks like you had a typo there, did you mean Microsoft?

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You mean in the title?

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Yes, obviously

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That setting and Microsoft’s “Connected Experiences” predate the current AI nonsense. Here’s a list of connected experiences the OneNote app sent me to when I tapped “Learn More”. It’s all stuff that does some degree of analysis on your data, so somebody probably thought treating AI as a “connected experience” made sense.

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…wow

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We word with government data that can never be touched by third parties, can never leave the country either. We take great care with that

Also: Government here stores most of its in Microsoft services…

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Is this relevant for Europe?

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Probably not

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Are they not allowed to do it for users in Europe?

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EU has consumer protections miles ahead of the US. Sometimes Americans get good things from it anyway. Example from just today - my wife’s iPhone began working with RCS format so now we can send photos to each other without them looking like shit. We were using Whatsapp for photos.

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If you use Microsoft office for work stuff, how do they get away with this? I get that they can violate your rights as an individual because fuck the consumer you peons don’t get representation from your government representatives, but when you’re working for some other company which has its own ton of lawyers and you use this product, how is Microsoft not getting their shit sued out of them?

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That can be controlled by group policy for corporate installations

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Of course it can be. But what if you don’t do that. It’s then just totally fine for Microsoft to gank your IP? Like that’s totally legal and will stand up in court?

Or what if some employee fucks with their settings? Sure you can fire the employee but what about the IP Microsoft now has? It’s all good for them to use that?

Same if I just print out a bunch of documents, walk into Microsoft’s offices and hand it to them. Sure my company can fire me, maybe even sue me. But that doesn’t make the IP suddenly fair game. Even by just looking at it, Microsoft could potentially open themselves up to legal trouble.

So I don’t see how any of this is legal.

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They mentioned it in the agreement and gave you the ability to turn it off company wide. If you wanted to protect your IP you should have used Linux 🤷‍♂️

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It’s manageable through GPO and off by default in Enterprise and Education like the other unconscionable shit I guess.

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Or maybe the guys in the company doing the gpo’s need to update their certification so they learn this shit…

Just guessing, I’m a Linux guy in a Linux company. Maybe the way I worded the comment was disingenuous, but when Microsoft is so unethical I am using the “to quoque” logical fallacy to justify it

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I was once one of those Microsoft guys with 2000 certs, and I’m not gonna lie, I liked working with MS stuff.

It’s usually inane, stupid and expensive shit on the one hand. But they were wasting company time and company money. I also worked in the banking sector, so it’s not like we would have been making the world a better place if it was more efficient.

Certs gamified the whole work environment. The whole thing is that they are not that hard to get if you get into it, it’s kind of a game. However, they cost a fuckton to get and maintain, but if you are in a good place, that’s on the company as well. Actually, the company is paying to make you more valuable to it, so that’s nice.

And since everything is so fucking inefficient, other departments will be moving at a sloth’s pace as well, so if you are half-decent at automation, and you can get a WFH job, most of your workday is basically playing video games.

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I’m not familiar with to quoque. How is that pronounced. Kuocue? Cock?

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Yeah I think at this point it’s really just on the company - why are you still using such an untrustworthy piece of software?

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