93 points

It also breaks a ton of non related features if you turn it off

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Only a multi-billion dollar company can provide this kind of service. Incredible. /s

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35 points

Hey Copilot, remove everything related to Microsoft Edge.

Ok. Removing Everything.

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34 points

You know I can’t let you do that, Dave

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Screen goes black

Apartment starts shaking

Void starts forming and devouring everything

Entire universe is deleted from existence

“It was all Microsoft Edge?”

“Always has been.”

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58 points

So, if it’s on by default and then you turn it off, do they delete all the data they stole from you while you were trying to get to the setting?

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25 points

No, but they’ll turn it ON again with next update


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22 points

Hahaha. “Off.”

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50 points

I find this kind of thing particularly questionable because I like many people am often dealing with documents and text which I do not have the right to share with anybody even if I wanted to.

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I am sure all the financial institutions and medical organizations are verrrrrry thrilled about this.

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4 points

I noticed via the link from another comment that “work” and “schools” can turn it off - though not exactly easily.

Are we heading for a situation like smart TVs, where individuals are wrapped in the net of data collection but companies can pay extra to not be spied on - so they don’t kick up enough of a fuss or stop using the vendor.

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3 points

Well I’m neither “work” nor a “school”, I’m sort of like a freelancer so I’m using my personal copy.

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1 point

I’m pretty sure Microsoft doesn’t get to see everything you write or draw in office

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42 points

Why not call spade a spade. It is Piracy setting not Privacy setting. How come when big corporations pirate it is called AI training whereas for us it is stealing.

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23 points

Because they own the lawmakers.

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4 points

that gives a bad name to piracy.

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35 points

If you use Microsoft office for work stuff, how do they get away with this? I get that they can violate your rights as an individual because fuck the consumer you peons don’t get representation from your government representatives, but when you’re working for some other company which has its own ton of lawyers and you use this product, how is Microsoft not getting their shit sued out of them?

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24 points

That can be controlled by group policy for corporate installations

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Of course it can be. But what if you don’t do that. It’s then just totally fine for Microsoft to gank your IP? Like that’s totally legal and will stand up in court?

Or what if some employee fucks with their settings? Sure you can fire the employee but what about the IP Microsoft now has? It’s all good for them to use that?

Same if I just print out a bunch of documents, walk into Microsoft’s offices and hand it to them. Sure my company can fire me, maybe even sue me. But that doesn’t make the IP suddenly fair game. Even by just looking at it, Microsoft could potentially open themselves up to legal trouble.

So I don’t see how any of this is legal.

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They mentioned it in the agreement and gave you the ability to turn it off company wide. If you wanted to protect your IP you should have used Linux đŸ€·â€â™‚ïž

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It’s manageable through GPO and off by default in Enterprise and Education like the other unconscionable shit I guess.

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Or maybe the guys in the company doing the gpo’s need to update their certification so they learn this shit


Just guessing, I’m a Linux guy in a Linux company. Maybe the way I worded the comment was disingenuous, but when Microsoft is so unethical I am using the “to quoque” logical fallacy to justify it

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I was once one of those Microsoft guys with 2000 certs, and I’m not gonna lie, I liked working with MS stuff.

It’s usually inane, stupid and expensive shit on the one hand. But they were wasting company time and company money. I also worked in the banking sector, so it’s not like we would have been making the world a better place if it was more efficient.

Certs gamified the whole work environment. The whole thing is that they are not that hard to get if you get into it, it’s kind of a game. However, they cost a fuckton to get and maintain, but if you are in a good place, that’s on the company as well. Actually, the company is paying to make you more valuable to it, so that’s nice.

And since everything is so fucking inefficient, other departments will be moving at a sloth’s pace as well, so if you are half-decent at automation, and you can get a WFH job, most of your workday is basically playing video games.

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Yeah I think at this point it’s really just on the company - why are you still using such an untrustworthy piece of software?

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I’m not familiar with to quoque. How is that pronounced. Kuocue? Cock?

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