cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/17202407

Sen. Roger Marshall (R-KS) introduced a bill this week to legally erase transgender people, entitled the “Defining Male and Female Act of 2024.” He claimed that the bill will stop what he called the Biden administration’s attempt to “replace biological sex with dangerous radical gender ideology.”

The bill is a long list of terms and definitions, where words like “father” and “girl” are defined with the words “male” and “female.” Those two words are then defined as “an individual who naturally has, had, will have, or would have, but for a congenital anomaly or intentional or unintentional disruption, the reproductive system that at some point produces, transports and utilizes [sperm or eggs for male or female, respectively] for fertilization.”

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If centrists wanted to be upset about bigotry against trans people, they could have started when they were blaming trans people for Harris losing. They could have started when their candidates were parroting Republican “boys in girls’ sports” bigotry in their own ads.

The indignation here rings hollow because like all the pretended morals of centrism, it is hollow.

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For the first time in history we had a president address trans issues in a state of the union. No democratic politicians have enacted legislation against Trans - in fact quite the opposite. But here you stand grandstanding again.

Get over blaming centrists for all your problems and enjoy the next four years

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Tell me, how happy were you to see the bigotry you agree with at all times repeated by candidates in your own party?

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Like what? Got any examples?

Edit: I see just down votes. Anyone got examples??

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It’s the only options we got in a FPTP. If you think not participating absolves you of any moral agency then you are just naive. I never said the democrats were champions of trans issues. I said steps were being taken in the right direction. They were very small steps, but it was something. Democracy demands vigilance and active participation. Its only as strong as it’s participating individuals. The same goes for any other polity, so don’t delude yourself in thinking that we are immune to corruption in any alternate system either.

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Man, I hope all the trans who said they wouldn’t vote for Harris because she didn’t talk about them are feeling great about the new government that will be in control during the next few years!

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This is what centrists think solidarity looks like.

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The constant purity testing of candidates/policies?

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The entitlement and vindictiveness when that entitlement is not met.

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You gotta work with the system you have, you can disagree with it, in the meantime you’re still working against your interests of you decide to not vote for the lesser of two evils.

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You gotta work with the system you have, you can disagree with it,

Yeah, I saw how that worked out here on lemmy.

in the meantime you’re still working against your interests of you decide to not vote for the lesser of two evils.

Already voted for Harris. This is about your gross vindictive glee at the misfortune of others.

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If we used a more representative electoral system, these people would be free to vote for who they want, safe in the knowledge their vote would still be counted against the republicans.

Are you working to replace First Past The Post voting in your state now that we have a few gasps of ait between elections?

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Only true if the right isn’t united. With a split left and a united right then the right ends up with the most people elected anyway. The only reason the left got a plurality in France is because it decided to work as a team for once, otherwise the far right would have taken over.

Also, acting like the system isn’t FPTP in the meantime is just acting against your own interests.

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of course I hate the active reduction of freedom. But may I ask, how important is this? Will trans people be able to continue to survive? Existing and being who you believe you are seems to be the important detail which pisses then off. They can’t do anything but be explicitly rude.

Should someone decide to fight you for being trans, I will fight for + with you.

Writing this comment mildly drunk, I’m sure there’s problems with it, but what if it’s like rain off a window, you look at it and ignore it?

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This is a precursor to them trying to sue trans people for “fraud” by having documents with the correct gender marker. Also, the cruelty is the point, and this is in itself cruel.

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Cripes. The fuckin struggle just to survive never ends. I don’t get what people’s problem is, and at this point an convinced I never will. Fuck em.

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Power, control, undiagnosed mental illnesses, capitalism

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They can be denied appropriate medical care.

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That’s enough reason to help fight the incoming changes, as far as I’m concerned.

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“They’re people” is more than enough reason.

There doesn’t need to be some arbitrary condition to be met before you decide that they’re worthy of solidarity.

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Nah you’re right, for the most part trans issues have been a great source of debate but mild source of actual problems.

Won’t stop either of us being virtually jumped on for saying it, though

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They can also force transgender people in institutional settings (prison, college, military, etc) to be housed with the wrong gender. That can be dangerous.

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Yeah for sure. I understand. I wish people could just be.

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Getting rid of Title IX protections is going to make surviving pretty fucking hard if you wind up with a bigoted manager who decides to fire you… Or just companies decide they don’t want to hire trans people at all.

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😮‍💨 it kinda seems like these companies already disengage once they meet via video or in person. Generic reasons are presented, “poor for for the team” etc.

If an HR person is dumb, you’ve possibly got em dead to rights with IX and some kind of evidence. I just think it’s so crazy to disregard someone’s potential just because they want to exist as their internal self.

Over time, that particular org won’t be as successful as the one hiring candidates for effectiveness over appearance, but damn does it suck for the individual bring denied at that time.

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I knew a man who got legally erased once. He was never the same after that.

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Wait, if they are erased, can they then become invisible superheroes?

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Go back to Reddit

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LoL, are you “go back where you came from” ing me? Go bob some apples, K, bob.

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