I watched TNG from beginning to end and throughout it tried to see anything to be critical of about Wesley and couldn’t find anything. What’s the big deal?

51 points

found Wills alt, y’all

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I wish Will would make a Lemmy account. I’ve always wanted to chat with him. Dude just seems legit fucking cool.

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I’d just like to thank him for possibly changing my life. My husband had a tweenage crush on Wesley which caused him to be into nerdy guys like me as an adult. So I might be married thanks to Will’s role on TNG.

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4 points

I’ve thought that for a long time. I’d love if he’d hang out here, and would hope he’d be respected being here (like he wasn’t on Reddit)

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7 points

I’ve talked to him a few times in century club and around reddit/Google+ in the old days, he seems like a decent guy IMO

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8 points

He used to be pretty active on reddit, and he was pretty fucking cool. If you didn’t hassle him and just had a conversation like he wasn’t famous, he was even cooler.

I don’t think he’s using much of anything social media related frequently any more though, not on an account connected to him in an obvious way for sure. Can’t say I blame him.

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6 points

Didn’t he have a mastodon account for a while? I think he accidentally got a TERFy blocklist and got harassed off the platform over it.

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5 points

I still miss TableTop, really got me into Boardgames

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16 points

Shut up, Wesley.

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Shut up Wesley.

He was a child prodigy on board a pretty cool starship, and he got away being annoying to the Captain. We all wanted to be in his shoes… but it was just a bloody fantasy. So we began to hate him.

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16 points

I wanted to be Riker but ok

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11 points

I wanted to be Data.

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5 points

I wanted to be Barclay.

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4 points

I didn’t hate him because I wanted to be him, I hated him because he was a gary stu, fellow-kids sort of character.

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56 points

Some of the “hate” might be overblown (and played up). But he’s still a poorly written character. He’s boring and one dimensional. There’s conflict right there, his dad died under Picard’s command, and Picard now wants to boink his mom. But he’s just normal teenage asshole + nerd trying to get into Starfleet Academy. He swoops in to solve a problem like a deus ex machina device one moment, then is a stupid angsty teen the next.

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He’s very much a Mary Sue-type character.

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And an important one in the History of the term Mary sue

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Also, he’s kind of written as a nerd in a bad way; not bookish or introverted, or almost autistically passionate about one or two topics, but a sort of do-gooder ass-kisser. The kind of guy who’d rat you out for hacking the holodeck to have a booze-fueled orgy with a bunch of simulated women designed from an adolescent’s ideal of unrealistic expectations.

Enterprise crew are supposed to be the best of Starfleet, having worked their way to the top of the lists to get there. Wesley’s there because his mom made it on the list; there’s no reason to expect he’d be any different from other teens: hormonally driven, prone to bad judgment and still figuring out life as a young adult. But that’s not how he’s written.

Put the Wesley character into any high school, and he’d be bullied. Even nerds wouldn’t like him.

I mean, what you said: he’s written as if by someone who’s forgotten what it’s like to be a teenager.

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The kind of guy who’d rat you out for hacking the holodeck to have a booze-fueled orgy with a bunch of simulated women designed from an adolescent’s ideal of unrealistic expectations.

“There are some games I’m not ready for yet.”

Bullshit, you’d be going to pound town the minute you got down to that planet and you would have broken their law by fucking your way onto that greenhouse.

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8 points

There is no interpersonal conflict allowed in Gene’s vision of Starfleet. Oh they might but heads occasionally, but every episode resolves with everyone putting their differences aside to work as a team. It’s practically a cult mentality. Gene would not have let them write episodes telling those kinds of Dead-parent/Step-Parent/Oedipal stories. That doesn’t exactly excuse the bad writing of the Wesley episodes, but it does explain why the writing did not go to those places.

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13 points

For one thing, he grows up to be a dick.

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He was such a turd in Eureka. It was great.

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2 points

He was my favorite part of later seasons.

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2 points

I would always laugh when he was being a dick. Just from every interview I’ve seen with the guy he comes across as a good one, and then here he was acting like he was. I kept imagining the director yelling “CUT!” and Wil immediately apologizing for the bullying.

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