If Republicans truly saw companies hiring illegal immigrants as an issue, they’d be able to easily crack down on business owners doing the hiring and make the punishment more than just a slap on the wrist.
No, the cruelty towards other humans is the point. They don’t care about the non-existent issue.
The slippery slope here is that deciding who is “illegal” may vary wildly depending on who Trump empowers (legit or just some Nazis that want “safe streets”) to decide this. He has had people saying just undocumented, but also people saying anyone that isn’t a full citizen (so anyone here with a Visa/Green Card/work papers/migrant workers/refugees/etc.).
You also know that when the Nazis/KKK folks get to work they are just going to be grabbing people that “look illegal” or that run from them/their mob (because they look dangerous!).
This is also going to have a HUGE impact on food prices when farmers have nobody to pick crops.
Greetings from Germany. Maybe you want to skip everything that happens from now on and end this before this lunatic takes office.
On a unrelated topic: aren’t you the nation with the most guns?
aren’t you the nation with the most guns?
Yes, and ownership is predominantly with those who want to kill/ deport immigrants. In the US, there are ~120.5 guns per 100 people. However, this statistic is misleading, because you might expect most people to have 1 gun, and a few people to have more than one to get to that statistic. However, most households do not have a fire arm.
So the average gun-owner, actually owns from 4-8 guns, while the majority of Americans own 0 guns. We have a culture of gun-obsessed rightwing psychopaths.
As a non-right wing, non-psychopath, I’m uncomfortable with the idea of owning a gun at all.
I don’t want one in my home and I don’t want one on my person. Even if I did purchase one and ended up using it to protect myself, the knowledge that I took a human’s life would be too much for me to live with.
There’s a problem with TOO MANY GUNS.
Let’s solve that problem by GETTING MORE GUNS
Its always interesting and telling how people respond to things. Your assumption that I don’t own a fire arm tells me more about you than it ever would myself.
The majority of voters who cast a valid ballot voted for him, what do you even do with those people? You get rid of their leader, another take their place. The military took an oath to the constitution, that included recognizing the results of elections, regardless of if they are a fascist. The US isn’t a Defensive Democracy like modern day Germany, we aren’t getting rid of them until the next election, that is, if there ever is a next election.
Speaking as a Canadian, I’m confused. If you boot out all the undocumented, where are you going to find the migrant workers to do all the unpleasant, if not downright dangerous jobs? And many of those are in red states. What does that leave? The convict workforce? I guess that is huge in the US.
We have migrant workers here too. They come on temporary visas, so they are technically documented. But the whole sector is rife with discrimination and human rights violations regardless.
This. Defunding education, removing social safety nets, and scaling back labour laws all will force whole families of low income workers to replace the migrant workers for the same or worse pay.
Absolutely. My comment was just a quip/ meme, but I do worry that what you laid out is their goal.
They have indicated in Project 2025 that they plan to rollback various safety nets. Unfortunately, the US is already lacking in that.
He’ll be focusing on undocumented folks in blue states, first, for sure. But economists are already predicting skyrocketing grocery prices as labor scarcity is forcibly introduced by these deportations, either way.
My guess, he focuses purely on “shock and awe” by targeting blue cities with workplace raids rather than just going to literally every farm in the south.
In my blue state, they’d have to use purely federal resources. Local law enforcement is not required to cooperate
Spoiler for you: they’ll comply and cooperate. Police aren’t known as bastions and liberal policies and agendas. They’re overwhelming MAGAts
The police are not your friends
Yup.
Getting rid of a ton of cheap labor is not good for an economy.
Red states will suffer more.
They’ll ask for more federal funds to support them than they already do.
Their daddy in the big seat will give it to them.
Just more of our money going to a bunch of ignorant/racist fools who can’t learn to vote more intelligently.
In a roundabout way… If they get the handouts, they will see trump as the saviour. The fact he caused the issues are irrelevant or that it costs something else so they can get their trump food stamps…
A migrant worker is not undocumented. Many are here in a legitimate work visa and it’s heavily used in farming.
Undocumented aliens comprise several subgroups and I suppose you can say “I really meant ….”.
For example the most common illegal is a formerly legal visiting student or worker who overstays their visa. And as you said, this is an area subject to human rights violation and discrimination: an employer can treat someone as poorly as they want, when someone is subject to deportation if they lose their job
Who the fuck knew we are going to see the fall of America in our lifetimes. The only thing I hope for at this point is strong Europe.
Who the fuck knew we are going to see the fall of America in our lifetimes.
No one thinks major downward shifts will happen in their lifetime…until they do. Our great shame is that we voted for it.
Writing’s on the wall. We’re squarely on the path of decline.
Only thing to debate now is the timeline.
I remember pointing out to my 8th grade social studies teacher that most countries don’t get to exist for over 200 years, especially after they have a massive civil war.
Many European countries that we know today didn’t exist in their current form that long ago and had a major war preceding the establishment of that nation. Kingdom of the Netherlands and the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg were formed in 1815 and Kingdom of Belgium 1830 before they were always subjects of a bigger empire or kingdom. Unification of Italy 1871 when Rome was finally captured and French Republic formed in 1792, France’s latest form is the Fifth Republic established in 1958. Germany only unified in 1866 before that time it was a bunch of smaller states and kingdoms, then after 1919 became the Weimar Republic, Federal Republic of Germany in 1949 and then fall of the wall in 1989. Independence of Greece 1821. Those examples aren’t the only ones and don’t forget the western Balkans, those nations were all formed in the 90’s.
It’s not that the country of America will disappear after a civil war but it might not be called the USA anymore.
The number of them that havent had a massive civil war or have been forced to reform because of war is fucken Sweden, Switzerland, and maybe Portugal im not familiar with their history. No Lichtenstein and the other micro nations dont count.
Reposting my comment again.
Like the German version of Nazis before them, they aren’t coming for their biggest target first. They’re coming for their political opposition, the “abortionists”, the atheists, the drug users, the mentally ill…
RFK Jr.:
“I’m going to create these wellness farms where they can go to get off of illegal drugs, off of opiates, but also illegal drugs, other psychiatric drugs, if they want to, to get off of SSRIs, to get off of benzos, to get off of Adderall, and to spend time as much time as they need — three or four years if they need it— to learn to get reparented, to reconnect with communities,”
Re-education camps, huh.
If the alternative is prison, these “wellness farms” may actually be better.
The problem is that i don’t trust the source
