115 points

Oh lord. This did not need to be a two parter. Man, I miss movies being well contained 90 minute stories.

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The whole Broadway show can be done in a 2 hour-ish performance live, there is no justification to stretch this to two movies other than corporate greed milking every IP to the limit

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From everything I’ve seen so far about Wicked the movie(s), yes that’s exactly what it is.

The show is still touring folks, go see the show if you can

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17 points

Unless its a planned trilogy with 3 strong stories that could semi-standalone (short of context being lost without the other installments) then any movie that needs more than 2 hours should just be a mini series. You wanna tell a 4 hour long story about the Wizard of Oz? Fine, stick it on Netflix and anyone who wants to binge watch it can to make it “feel like a movie” and those who don’t will have 4 - hour long episodes.

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6 points

They wouldn’t make 4 episodes, they’d make 8 and half of them would be filler episodes.

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1 point

The finale would leave loose ends as long as the cables they’re frayed from, and season 2 will either be canceled or cut short so huge compromises will have to be made and nothing is properly resolved

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8 points

I’m starting to suspect that this is why I don’t watch as many films as I’d like to. They’ve all become such a time commitment. Show me what you can do with an hour and a half!

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2 points

There are still plenty of those. My word the histrionics from some corners around this film are absurd.

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Just saw part one. As I had suspected, they would’ve been hard pressed to get both acts into one film.

A Broadway show can get away with a lot more compression. There are no establishing shots on a stage. And Wicked, as a musical, moves. The movie didn’t overstay its welcome, it didn’t waste much time. But it still easily filled its runtime.

Making the two acts into two films was a good call. Though I suspect the second film won’t be as good as the first, since I’ve always preferred act 1 of the Broadway show.

It’s really clear to me that the cast and crew weren’t lying when they said they love the musical and wanted to do right by it.

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54 points

I’m still bitter about Spider-Man. Had no idea it was a part one until it ended. Maybe we just create whole movies with the 2+ hours we are using.

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6 points

Which Spiderman was a part 1 of 2?

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The second spider-verse movie, I think. No mention of it being a trilogy but the story clearly ended setting up a third movie.

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1 point

Those movies were already too long, IMO. The shortest of the two is 114 minutes. My son really liked them, but we had to break up each movie into more than one session.

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3 points

Same, caught it on a plane and was pissed I had to keep sitting there not knowing the actual ending

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18 points

Ah fuck you reminded me of the ending of Spiderverse. Probably at least 2 years away still…

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15 points

I don’t think they were even making part 2 when they ended it that way. Made it so much worse.

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5 points

And the fact they said we’d have this to you by EOY. Absolute BS. Still no updated release date.

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7 points

I was so psyched for that movie, but when I found out it was a part one, I lost interest and still haven’t seen it

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10 points

It completely killed any narrative cohesion or pay-off by just ending. I remember thinking “it’s been a really long time… how are they going to wrap this up?”

Turns out the answer is “don’t wrap it up”. It truly makes me not recommend it - though I had other issues with it aside from just that absurd decision. Rewatch the first again, instead.

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I agree the split in half angle was horribly handled but the movie wasn’t totally ruined. ::: spoiler Narratively across the spider-verse was gwens story. It started with her and ended with her and miles was the backdrop for much of what happened spoiler ::: . I’ve seen the movie 3 times and I still love it. I don’t think the take away is movies should be shorter because it had so much amazing visuals and story telling and really ramped up the expectations for the next one. The take away is don’t lie to your audience pretending it’s a single movie. Also don’t lie and say the next one is coming out in 8 months, it’s been 2 years lol. They were never gonna make that deadline.

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This did have PART 1 early in reveal but then realized people wouldn’t see it so they lied about this being a complete movie. Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning did the same thing

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I pretty sure it was public knowledge (even talked about in publicity) Dead Reckoning was two parts.

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Yeah, they scrubbed it from the title once it was on digital/streaming for awhile.

Here’s what AppleTV looks like:

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I think this has more to do with the next one being the Final Reckoning instead of “dead reckoning part 2”

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6 points

People aren’t going to see a movie that lies about it being a part 1 either, at least not after the first weekend when the word gets out

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Infinity War did that too. Ragnarok was also announced as a 2-parter at the same time, but I guess they backed off on that.

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2 points

Ugh thank God they did. I can’t imagine two movies like that.

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Pretty sure Dead Reckoning was well and truly out of theatres by the time they made the change.

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10 points

Damn, I planned on watching this too. No point now.

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Just saw it. I recommend you go see it. Especially if you liked the Broadway show. They did a good job, and having seen it I’m glad they’re doing the acts as separate movies, it lets them take time with establishing shots and emotional beats. It’s a good time, saw it with a group and we all loved it.

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Never seen the play. Didn’t even know it was based on it.

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Oh. Then I have no idea if you’d like it. I loved it, but I love the musical. I haven’t yet heard opinions from people who didn’t already know the show.

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