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What a fucking lib take… See you on Mastodon after Dorsey fuck y’all over again

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Even if dorsey is too busy sniffing his own farts bluesky is built on vc money just like twitter was. This is the same song and every one is just dancing to the same old hollow tune.

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I’m positive at least some of the servers that house Lemmy and its FOSS sister networks are housed in VC companies. The amount of people who can support that data and the servers it resides on is small without Corps being in the mix.

We’re not exactly winning over here on Lemmy or Mastodon. I’ve been a member of the Mastodon community for close to 6 years or so. It isn’t a reasonable replacement for Twitter because (for what I used it for, which had nothing to do with Micro logging), it doesn’t do what I need it to because the number of people I want to follow there are few and far between. Bands, book authors, local news networks, international news networks. I’m not likely to find out about school closings on Mastodon.

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I like Jason but he completely missed the boat on this one.

The active migration away from social media networks that are owned, controlled by, and distorted by the richest men and most powerful companies in the world to a decentralized platform that is not owned and controlled by billionaires is one of the more hopeful things to happen in what has largely been a bleak year for the human internet as AI slop infects everything and billionaires put their thumbs on the scale of what we see on social media.

He says this and yet jumps to Bluesky, a platform created by Jack Dorsey and now owned and managed by a crypto bro? You don’t need powers of prophecy to see where Bluesky is headed.

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It’s very telling that all across lemmy this is being celebrated. Looks like most people completely missed the point.

I don’t myself like mastodon very much, but if you came to lemmy to stick it to the man it’s a bit silly to cheer on the next man, which is what bluesky is.

Twitter will remain a place for the Right and nut job grifters , probably absorb truth social and the others. bluesky will become the place for liberals and centrists who jerk each other off because they have a degree and gay friends and think they are enlightened.

Sorry , nobody asked for that rant .

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Most people came to Lemmy becaise they felt personally agreived by the Reddit API issue. They don’t give a shit about what’s good for the Internet, or society.

They’re here out of protest, and would happily give their all to the next Billionaire that makes them feel smarter than the average bear.

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People aren’t going to be convinced of social/communism overnight.

I celebrate the move to BlueSky as positive in that they are no longer propping up an apartheid tech bro who’s now running a meme branch of US Government, and also because many of them are doing the thing they were scared to do before: leave. They now know how that feels and what it will be like rebuilding friend groups and such.

It’s not the anti-corpo step many are deluding themselves to believe it is, but getting out of the muck and learning how to take the step to change something are both things I see as positives that can be guided to better things in the future.

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musk could just buy it. jack already sold twitter to him, and while musk might have comprehended how shitty a deal it was (i mean he tried to back out of the contract and all); he doesn’t seem like the guy who would be smart enough to avoid cost sunk fallacy and might want to buy bluesky to keep digging that hole. and jack wouldn’t turn him down for a bid on bluesky for the same reason he didn’t turn him down before - money. heck, if the rightwing shittards were ready to really destroy the “liberal web” they’d make sure musk could buy and convert bluesky too. nowhere for “liberals” to run after that, because they already had the option for mastodon and choose fucking bluesky like months to a flame.

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For me the bigger value is not in the quality difference between the two platforms. And don’t get me wrong, i agree that BlueSky is a lot better than Elon’s Twitter, but not as good as a decentralised Fediverse Platform.

The real positive is in the act of migration itself, because it shows that is still a possibility. So hopefully it proves sustainable.

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4 points

Small steps

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Your rant is very much appreciated.

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He says this and yet jumps to Bluesky, a platform created by Jack Dorsey and now owned and managed by a crypto bro?

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Honestly I don’t know what’s up with the mass delusion about Bluesky being oligarch-free. It’s understandable that most don’t know or haven’t looked into it, but then some folks that should know better are displaying the same ignorance.

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People going over don’t care who owns it, they just want to use a platform that regularly censors thoughts they disagree with. That’s it.

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They want a platform where THEY can censor. No matter how much I block Leon M. on twitter, I keep seeing his posts

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At least maybe some more regular people will learn about decentralization (and alternative ways there) from this mass adoption?

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Whether it soon becomes possible to self host an AppView, the one remaining centralized component will tell us a lot about where it’s headed.

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There are already smaller appviews that use the existing hosting/authentication infra, but bypassing the bsky appview aggregation. Nothing with any real scale but for example there is a barebones reddit/hackernews equivalent https://frontpage.fyi/

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That’s interesting. This post had suggested it isn’t yet possible to host an AppView. It seems the reality is more complex.

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How does another social media ruled by a billionaire gives hope?

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Because it shows that a sizable amount of people are at least anti-nazi enough to move platform.

Yes, it would be nicer if they moved to mastodon, but nobody even knows what that is, nobody is there (classic chicken and egg problem), and people get confused by the whole “choose an instance/server” thing.

Is it not ok to have a small celebration of people moving to a better, more positive platform, even if it is far from perfect?

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Whhhhhhy?

This is the same thing. This is the exact same type of platform that will eventually go the same way. This is shooting yourself in the foot once, then aiming the shotgun at the other foot and pulling the trigger thinking that the bullet was a fluke the first time.

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To be fair Musk buying twitter and turning it into a Nazi propaganda site was kind of flukey.

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Twitter was already really bad, Musk just brought back the Nazis and fired all the people that were the guardrails.

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Bluesky just got major investment from a crypto bro…

It’s not flukey…

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Was it though?

A billionaire buys or funds a privately owned platform and does with it as he pleases, despite the obviously humanitarian route being something different. Have we really never seen that before?

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Sure the billionaire buying stuff thing happens, but a Nazi billionaire?

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Because most people switching don’t know (or care) about the fediverse and decentralization. They are regular internet users who just want to get away from the cesspool that is twitter, so they go where other people are going.

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Wish they would go to Mastodon, even Threads which is on the fediverse.

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