Narrator: it wasn’t. Everyone in the country loses.
I fail to see any logic with anyone interviewed. They knew things would be worse for Palestine and Lebanon with the donvict, they know they personally may face hardship as a consequence of the election. They know they were duped.
But they wanted to punish Democrats and Harris particularly. Does that satisfaction make the rest of the shit sandwich taste good?
Not just worse for Palestinians. Remember, Trump enacted the first US Muslim immigrant ban in 2017.
https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/the-enduring-harms-of-trumps-muslim-ban
The logic is that it’s simply a shit campaign strategy to run on a message of, “yes, I will abet genocide, but my opponent will abet it even harder!”
It’s just a zero-IQ, complete brain death of a strategy. The Democratic party is meant to appeal to people who care about others, who want to do what they can to make a positive difference in this world. And Kamala’s brilliant plan was to appeal to those bleeding hearts with a message of, “yes, I’m fine with genocide, but the genocide will go even faster if my opponent is elected!”?
What dirt-fucking moron thought that was a good idea?
The Democratic party is meant to appeal to people who care about others
That hasn’t been true since Clinton and the blue dogs. They became what Republicans used to be over the last 30 years. It has been said many times, but there simply isn’t a viable left wing/worker’s party in the US. Other countries have labor and social democrat parties for that.
They used to be a hell of a lot more radical. The “new deal” was originally planned to go a hell of a lot further with social policies. We could have had taxpayer-funded healthcare in the 1940s.
Maybe you missed the statements calling for a cease fire.
Someone else assembled this reference for those ignorant of the news.
What dirt-fucking moron thought “I’m against genocide, so I’m going to make the genocide go faster! That’ll show 'em!” was a good idea? You don’t tell someone not to shoot you in the foot by telling them to shoot you in the head instead.
Because at some point it becomes a distinction without a difference. At some point you’re sitting there deciding between Hitler or Mussolini. Mussolini might objectively be the better choice, as his crimes are fewer than Hitler’s by pure magnitude. But given that choice, a lot of people will just refuse to participate.
People don’t vote based on pure logic. That’s not how human beings operate. Don’t make your voters feel like they need to go to confess their sins to a priest after voting for your candidate, and maybe then you won’t have people refusing to vote for them.
a zero-IQ, complete brain death of a strategy
Sounds like a description of the GeNoCiDe jOe crowd who helped end democracy
The logic is that it’s simply a shit campaign strategy to run on a message of, “yes, I will abet genocide, but my opponent will abet it even harder!”
This has been explained. I worry that going over it again will somehow not be helpful. Just let the leopards eat all our faces like you decided.
You have to understand Harris accepted millions in bribes from pro-Israeli lobbying groups.
It was a hard choice between genocide and money, but Harris found a way to sell out America and keep both.
As did literally every other president for the last 40+ years. Now you’ve elected Trump instead. Smart.
But they wanted to punish Democrats and Harris particularly. Does that satisfaction make the rest of the shit sandwich taste good?
It doesn’t, but they won’t admit it. Spite is a powerful driver for self-delusion and denial.
TBH I just want the dems to stop supporting genocide. Since the dems aren’t motivated by empathy or principle but by self-interested politricks, I’m hoping that a trump-led genocide will motivate the dems to stop genociding people.
Y’all nostradamuses keep saying it’s going to get worse while genocide joe never ceases genociding. It’ll probably be the same like it’s been for the past 75+ years.
U.S. to Keep Sending Arms to Israel Despite Dire Conditions in Gaza
spoiler
It was not.
The article is a lot more nuanced than the headline. Arab- and Muslim-Americans knew that neither candidate cared about them, and the article explains various ways that affected their thinking.
It really was, well except for Rola Makki, her view was just bog standard Republican cognitive dissonance.
Still, absolutely infuriating that they would not vote for Harris even when they knew deep down it would be worse and while I can feel for them and actually do agree with some of their points about Democrats not really being behind minorities, I still find it hard to really feel too bad knowing they not only screwed themselves, they the rest of us too.
They didn’t lose the election for Harris. She failed to get voters across the board. And they’re the one group with the most justified reason to vote spitefully and a conveniently “othered” minority to focus on so the people who ran that terrible campaign don’t have to own up for their failures and liberal white America that thought “the Democrats don’t need to do anything for them because they have no other options” can avoid recognizing that that was a bad sentiment with which to build a coalition.
They didn’t lose the election for Harris.
Right… I don’t think there are enough Arab- and Muslim-Americans in PA to swing it, and she needed that to win the election, even if she had won MI. I suspect it was her failed messaging on the economy that made the difference. But we don’t have final numbers yet so it’s hard to tell.
Do we actually know that Kamala would be any better for Gaza than Trump? Because Biden never altered a single Trump policy when it came to Israel. He enabled Israel just as strong as Trump did.
Moreover, Trump has told Israel that he wants them to wrap it up quickly. That likely means a surge in violence in Gaza in the next few months. And while the death toll from those months will exceed what they would have been under Kamala, the conflict had no end in sight at all under Biden/Harris.
What evidence do we actually have, other than just vibes, that Trump will be worse than Harris? I mean sure, he personally despises all Arab people, but it’s not like Biden or Harris really see the Palestinians as human beings either. Trump is just more overt about it.
Do we actually know that Kamala would be any better for Gaza than Trump?
Given that Israel just announced a plan to annex the West Bank with Trump’s blessing, I’d say the answer is that yes, she would.
Do we actually know that Kamala would be any better for Gaza than Trump?
1000% yes and I don’t believe you’re really asking
It would have been better because like her hero Biden, she would have quietly said Netty was mean behind closed doors.
She would have kept sending guns and money, and defending them from repercussions so they continue to have free rein to commit genocide, but it would be better.
"Alawieh couldn’t bring himself to vote for Trump; he voted for Harris. But he didn’t necessarily want her to win either. “I wanted her to beat Trump, but Harris winning would mean my family stays in the same nightmare we’ve come to know. Trump winning makes that nightmare more uncertain, and the ways it will harm my family less clear. But what is clear is that the U.S. government, whether Democrat or Republican, will keep sending weapons to Benjamin Netanyahu illegally. That’s what I have a problem with.”
… Jesus fucking Christ guy… For being involved in politics you have to understand there are 3 things you cannot do no matter what: you cannot change military spending, the MIC won a long time ago. You cannot stop our addiction to Israel. You cannot touch the billionaire class.
Those things have proven to be impossible. Hell will have, first come to even exist, and then freeze over before those things happen… But sure, you have to try, I get it. Just now everyone suffers for it. :/
Er, he voted for Harris? I’m pretty sure he understands the situation.
But even those who didn’t… I can understand why someone being repeatedly punched in the stomach would have difficulty deciding who to call their leader between the person punching them and the person off to the side jumping up and down saying “Ooh… let ME have a turn!” They know that voting for a third party will still end up with one of these two punching them, so the reasoning shifts a bit.
