Summary
In Wayne County, Arab American precincts rejected Kamala Harris, with Biden receiving 82% of the vote in 2020 and Harris only 23% in 2024.
Trump’s outreach to Arab American and Muslim communities, including visits to Dearborn and Hamtramck, contributed to his increased support.
Harris’s performance in Dearborn, where she received only 13% of the vote in the south end, reflects the backlash against Biden’s handling of foreign policy in the Middle East.
they only care about themselves, and their misguided belief that they are ‘doing the right thing’ and ‘paying back’ biden.
if they cared at all about gaza, about the west bank, about palestine and its people, they would have come out in force, and in support of democrats from coast to coast. anything to prevent another trump presidency.
trump was never on their side and will let israel do whatever they want.
just like he’ll let russia do whatever they want and ukraine will cease to exist. protest votes, like those in michigan, helped doom ukraine, too.
I’m not going to laugh if trump starts deporting Muslims - including those here legally… but I probably won’t feel too bad about it either.
L*berals will see literal genocide and say “this is ok bc they deserve it for not voting blue no matter who”
Um, a lot of these people voted for Red, accelerated genocide. It’s hard to find sympathy for that behavior.
I’ll feel bad, along with when they come for all the other immigrant groups who voted for Trump, and eventually for the rest of us.
Now is the time to build coalitions, and work together to confront what is coming.
We keep talking about how to “get through” to voters…
Well, cold reality is a very effective tool, and many people will be regretting their choices in the coming days. We’d be stupid to turn them away instead of showing them we believe in the same core values.
Harris could’ve fixed that by promising not to blow up Palestine. This is purely on her and Biden for being unelectable, not on people refusing to vote for someone who will wipe them out
So allow the candidate to supercharge the extermination to win? That’s one helluva strategy. Certainly one way to try and shift the blame to one side when there’s plenty to go around for both dems and the uncommitted
Yet you only ever complain about how “the uncommitted” are the problem, and never dems 🤔
not on people refusing to vote for someone who will wipe them out
Man I totally forgot Trump is actually a peace loving, human-rights respecting person and totally won’t give Israel a blank check. Can’t wait for the news article about how Trump’s totally gonna get Israel to stop!
Good thing we didn’t vote in BlUe MagA right guys?
You know people voted for candidates other than Harris and trump right? Like Arab americans voting for 3rd party candidates that haven’t promised to wipe out Gaza?
I’m afraid these guys are incapable of complex morale situations, not understanding how the lines are blurred in most situations. They just want everything to be good or bad, nothing in between.
Harris refused to take a stand against Israel so why should they vote for her?
Why are they selfish? Because they didn’t vote how YOU wanted? Who’s being selfish here?
This is the thing I can stand least about liberals. They’re the smartest, most moral people in the world and anyone who doesn’t vote their way for any reason is stupid and bad
“Voting 3rd party or sitting out during the election basically cedes the election to one of two parties. We should at least choose the party that has a better chance to be swayed against genocide than the one who openly advocates for the genociders to ‘finish the job’”
“L1b3RaL!!1!a”
I’m not saying liberals are the smartest and most moral people, they definitely aren’t. But dismissing reality of the American political system and the almost certain likelihood of the US presidential election to vote for neither of the two main parties and expecting something good to come out of it is pretty telling to one’s critical thinking skills.
Classic. Here’s a song written in 1966 about the same thing https://youtu.be/3cdqQ2BdgOA?si=Quu3uCr8FEPUlTGr
Oh yea, because Trump’s definitely gonna take a stand against Israel and TOTALLY won’t give them a blank check and encourage genocide. Nope.
At least we didn’t give that blUe MagA the Trifecta! We did it Lemmy!
They didn’t vote for trump. They didn’t vote. Both sides promised to continue the genocide. That’s pretty fair.
Too many people in this thread think they know better about the average voter. Most Americans don’t actually give a shit about politics. It’s getting them to care is the problem. Most people in the USA are too fucking stupid for their own good. Most of the people in this thread are too sensitive to realize they are part of the problem. Arab Americans aren’t directly responsible for Trump’s win but they contributed to it by holding out their votes on a single issue. If both candidates were literally the same as each other besides their stance on Gaza then I can see the logic of not voting for one over the other or abstaining. This was not the case. Most of you trying to act like Harris should have come out and promise to personally stop the genocide don’t realize that the Jewish population in America controls more money, power and influence than the Arab vote. So both sides are going to go out of their way to support Israel. You pearl clutchers don’t get this.
That’s a roundabout way to say you consider them selfish for not voting for a candidate they believe will keep the genocide of their relatives going.
In support of, (checks notes) … The woman who never meaningfully distanced herself from Biden’s policy of funding the Genocide of their families.
Yeah. Super shocked. Super.
Well at least they can complain altogether when Trump reports them all.
Stupid fucking people.
People who don’t agree with you aren’t stupid. They just have a different life they’re living.
I’ll be watching how this bold strategy plays out in Gaza.
Oh, this is a shocking turn of events.
To clarify, this is not a new quote. However, this is the new Ambassador to Israel, I’m given to understand.
Shit, theyre gonna start bombing gaza and murdering women and children when Trumps inaugurated
We are at genocide. Now. Someone else tried coming up with the term ‘super genocide’ because whatever democrats are responsible for cant be that bad, trump has to be worse. And since we’re already at genocide, it has to be worse than genocide. Like we are currently at excusable genocide, doesnt count genocide, only technically genocide. Itll only be a crime against humanity once Trump is bombing women and children. I cant wait to see the headlines of hospitals getting hit with US missiles and people like you going “see? Its worse!”
The West Bank. That’s where they’re going to start. As announced. Because of Trump winning.
Start? You aint been payin attention, theyve been actively occupying there long before the gaza invasion.
There is no higher level of Genocide. The worst is already happening. Get the fuck out with this bad faith take.
Ah yes, I must be naive. It can’t be that you’re wrong about the already existing levels of death.
There’s genociding the West Bank as well as Gaza, as currently suggested now that Trump has won. You might not see a difference between 40% and 100%, but your joint winners Netanyahu and Trump do. You sure showed Harris there.
You think they weren’t fucking up the West Bank already? You haven’t been paying attention.
This is crazy because typically Republicans are more supportive of Israel…
To Arabs with families in Gaza the worst is already happening. Entire branches of families have been wiped out. Trump quite literally can not be any worse for them than Biden. And Harris failed to meaningfully distance herself from Biden’s policies on Gaza. So they stayed home. This isn’t shocking, it’s an entirely human response.
And yet here we are with Israel announcing that they can start on the West Bank now that Trump won. But no, go ahead with your bOtH SiDEs shit, it’s so rational and Principled.
The war crimes that Biden decided weren’t bad enough to stop weapon shipments were committed in the West Bank. Go learn something before you embarrass yourself.
You’re welcome to hold an opinion. I could have believed you were ill informed and not actively acting in bad faith.
You continued responding after this comment was posted illustrating how you were actively lying and trying to subvert the facts.
https://midwest.social/post/19205574/13516874
It’s very clear from those paying attention she did take a different position from the same as Trump.
Stop lying.
First of all I’m not omniscient. I don’t see everything that’s posted. But please go read what I said again. I did not say I believed her stance to be the same as Biden’s. I said she failed to meaningfully separate herself from Biden’s policies.
She said the exact same thing Biden was saying while he was sending 2,000 pound bombs to Israel.
And Jordanlund is wrong about the “defensive” weapons. The only defensive thing we send is the iron dome missiles. We also send everything from bullets to tank shells to plane bombs. None of which are purely defensive.
She could have used messaging along the lines of, “I believe our military aid requires more stringent investigations into units receiving it.” But for whatever reason she didn’t. The pro Palestinian lobby was very clear about what they wanted to hear from her in order to vote for her and she did not meet that bar.
I don’t know many things but the voters are obviously to blame. We drew 100 different trolley problems and told them democracy and women’s rights were on the line. We even had Bill Clinton logically explain that Palestinians were human shields. We even had better policy even though most voters didn’t know it. I can only conclude voters are selfish and that’s why they vote against their own interests.
Democrats told them to shut up about it. So they did…
