I doubt anything comes of it, but here’s hoping.

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If you’re an EU citizen, please take the time to sign this citizen initiative to stop killing games. It could be our best chance of preventing such situations in the future.

https://www.stopkillinggames.com/

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Thor summarizes the problems with this initiative pretty well: https://youtu.be/ioqSvLqB46Y?si=QPjVZcV7zteBPpos

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This guy’s strawman arguments have already been destroyed by plenty of people who actually know what they’re talking about and don’t have an interest in keeping the current situation.

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31 points

No he doesn’t, he creates strawman and fights them

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15 points

What a terrible take.

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14 points

The guy who won’t go 5 seconds without flashing his “20 years of service to Blizzard” badge also was dumbfounded at the possibility of people self hosting game servers like World of Warcraft, even though they’ve been doing it for years. Dude seems like a MASSIVE know it all.

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99 points

If they release something with paid content, I should get to have that paid content forever, or get a refund. 🤷‍♂️

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Cries in MMOs from 20 years ago.

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Last week I downloaded Dark Age of Camelot which I have not played nor paid for 20 years, and my character was still there. I was really not expecting them to keep the data for so long without any payment.

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I understand why most companies wouldn’t do that, but they should be forced to open-source online games that get shut down or otherwise made non-functional.

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If you buy a game, which you cannot use in single player mode, without internet access, you are signing up for this happening to you too, one day, guaranteed.

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“You’re gonna hate the way it feels. I guarantee it.”

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I mean, that’s basically all AAA games in 2024. Even songs PC ports which historically avoided DRM and network requirements is starting to mandate PSN accounts. I 100% would prefer to be able to play offline, more often than not it’s unwanted telemetry or BS bloat but that isn’t something we as users can enforce.

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At this point I’m afraid only government intervention would help (with citizens asking it to do so)

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Buddy…government doesn’t give a shit about video games. They got wars to start. People to exploit.

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I think the department that protects consumers isn’t busy with wars

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31 points

Ok…4 hours of sleep a night is officially not enough. I’ve been awake for about 2 hours now, and read that as

Grandma sued for shutting down her crew.

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13 points

Username checks out

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Granny ain’t fuckin around

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7 points

Close enough

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2 points

Reindeer begin keeping tabs on her whereabouts in response.

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Out of curiosity, did anyone sue bungie for doing the same thing with destiny’s Y1 & Y2 content?

I was one of those dumb bastards who bought the game and DLC back in 2017

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It gets to be way harder to argue in court when it isn’t a “clean kill”, using Ross Scott’s words, so The Crew is going to be one of the best examples we’ll ever get for courts to rule on. I expect Ubisoft would rather settle than let this one go that far though.

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I imagine a lawsuit would likely bring up the topic of how hard it would be for a developer to keep the game around past purchase.

For instance, imagine a massively multiplayer online game; everyone playing the game is acutely aware of how much server hardware is needed to maintain that online presence, and it’s unrealistic to assume it would exist forever.

That’s probably why attention was pushed onto The Crew. It’s a racing game that shouldn’t need much from a server, so it’s arguably unfair to tie it to that access and take it offline.

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it’s unrealistic to assume it would exist forever.

Older multiplayer games would let you self-host the server, long before the current trend.

Ubisoft doesn’t have to continue to host servers. They just have to release the server code. Zero cost to them.

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zero cost to them

I would imagine it would reveal how sh*tty the ubisoft code bases are and has a reputation cost XD. But if it’s that big of a risk then they should keep the servers running indefinitely.

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Pirates have managed to run servers for tons of MMOs. The only thing stopping people from running servers themselves is that they’re not made available.

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That’s why companies shutting down online games need to be compelled to open-source or at least provide binaries for their servers.

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Don’t get it wrong, the reason The Crew was the perfect game to start the movement is solely because Ubisoft is french, a country that has pretty strong consumer laws that they aren’t respecting.

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