Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich welcomed President-elect Donald Trump’s electoral victory Monday, saying that “the time has come” to extend full Israeli sovereignty over the occupied West Bank.

He made the comment a day after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a recorded statement that he has spoken three times with Trump since the election and that they “see eye to eye on the Iranian threat.

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What a shocker! Who could have predicted this?

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Holy shit!

Hang on. I can’t find my Pikachu shocked face. I must have left it at the other article where the Republicans said they lied about Project 2025.

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We should start making bets about this

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we’re about to see something really shocking and ugly aren’t we. more so than usual I mean

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No, I’ve been told a Trump victory couldn’t make anything worse for Palestine. This should just be status quo stuff here.

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Indeed, because “Genocide Joe” and so on, argle bargle. The voters that sat out because of this, or worse, outright voted for donvict will have a lot to answer for. I mean, if they actually give a shit about Palestinians and didn’t really just want to be Above It All ™.

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I like argle bargle. I shall use it

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I mean it is the status quo. Israel’s current move will only make the “facts on the ground” official.

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Yup.

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So all you “But Gaza!” people…how’d that work out for you?

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This may just be an observation from across the pond, but it feels like the But Gaza people were nothing but a troll farm and y’all got played.

Man, this whole situation is all kinds of fucked.

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The “people” bringing it up nonstop on social media might have been state actors or trolls but there were plenty of real people who followed the movement. They’re still “But Gaza!” people regardless of how the idea that they should abstain from voting got into their head.

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I voted Harris, but I was pretty fucking disgusted with Kamala’s refusal to change course on this.

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It’s mostly true. Someone was tracking those accounts and nearly all of them stopped posting entirely immediately after the election. Either very dedicated, or astroturfing.

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Some of us called these people on their shit. They’re all gone now, so at least we have that.

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Naah. Some of them are still around blaming Harris and democrats for tanking the election.

It’d be funny if it weren’t so… not funny.

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The Harris campaign made the decision to not break from Biden on Israel, at the cost of a +6 points gain. That’s the fault of the campaign’s calculations to ignore those voters, take them for granted, and instead run to the right with Liz Cheney and having the most lethal Military.

I voted for Harris and told others to do the same. It’s still on the campaign. Blaming voters is just sowing division when we need unity and solidarity to fight against Fascism.

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Our first matchup tested a Democrat and a Republican who “both agree with Israel’s current approach to the conflict in Gaza”. In this case, the generic candidates tied 44–44. The second matchup saw the same Republican facing a Democrat supporting “an immediate ceasefire and a halt of military aid and arms sales to Israel”. Interestingly, the Democrat led 49–43, with Independents and 2020 non-voters driving the bulk of this shift.

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In Pennsylvania, 34% of respondents said they would be more likely to vote for the Democratic nominee if the nominee vowed to withhold weapons to Israel, compared to 7% who said they would be less likely. The rest said it would make no difference. In Arizona, 35% said they’d be more likely, while 5% would be less likely. And in Georgia, 39% said they’d be more likely, also compared to 5% who would be less likely.

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Majorities of Democrats (67%) and Independents (55%) believe the US should either end support for Israel’s war effort or make that support conditional on a ceasefire. Only 8% of Democrats but 42% of Republicans think the US must support Israel unconditionally.

Republicans and Independents most often point to immigration as one of Biden’s top foreign policy failures. Democrats most often select the US response to the war in Gaza.

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You’re right that they really messed up here

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Thank you! All these people out here trying to start shit with people protesting a genocide when the Dems just had to take the easiest moral high ground known to man, opposing a genocide. And despite all numbers telling them “this will win you the election” they decided nah, cause we’d rather the Republicans win than even imagine opposing Israel.

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Yell louder about how you don’t think Palestinians deserve to exist

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Why are you so quick to attack the people openly protesting a genocide instead of the party that lost the election because they refused to openly protest a genocide?

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Because the people openly protesting a genocide opted for the man who promised to genocide harder.. But hey, keep playing yourselves. Let me know how that works out for you.

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So, the Democrats who you fully believe would continue genociding palastinians have no blame, and the people who couldn’t morally vote for a slower genocide are to blame. That’s an interesting outlook. It gives 0 agency to the Dems. 0 blame to the party who got handed a piece of paper that said “don’t support genocide or lose the election” and tried to subvert that warning by going for Republican votes.

Silly silly silly.

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Good work Pro-Palestinian voters, you screwed your own people.

By the way, the US military will most likely gear up for a war against Iran. Yep, orders from Riyadh and Tel Aviv for another 20 year shit hitting the fan adventure doomed to fail.

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The election wasn’t decided by voters who cared about Palestine, I don’t think.

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No it was decided by Starlink.

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Go back to your flat earth alek

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How about good work democrats for not actively opposing the genocide? Like, why are you so quick to blame anyone but the shot callers, playmakers and plan writers? Genuinely.

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Is turbo-genocide somehow better than regular old genocide?

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No genocide is better. Turns out democrats supported genocide for nothing. There goes the narrative.

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Democrats should be allowed to do a genocide

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I think my comment has been misinterpreted. Op said “good job” sarcastically. I too am using “good job” sarcastically. The Dems are the shot callers and play makers I am talking about. The ones deserving of blame due to their utter inability to denounce a genocide and instead promising to continue arming it.

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putting aside the absolute disgust on being ok with “proper genocide” by harris, turbo genocide is always better. would you prefer a slow painful death from hunger & disease or blown instantly to pieces ?

people in gaza are starving and their medicine aid from UN was on purpose bombed by israel under biden during election time. even after that harris said her policy will remain the same.

and given the history of flipflopper harris i have absolutely zero doubt that she would have happily let israel burn everyone alive in gaza, westham and palastine for few more millions donations to her re-election campaign from aipac. she would have used her getting the presidency as lesser evil to brag america voted for her policy of genocide.

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