113 points

Y’all had a choice between less-than-perfect & and straight up hatred. Your choice was to let hate reign. And now you’re gloating about it. So fuck you for that. And your quaint meme is the equivalent of smearing your own shit on the wall in a tepid little tantrum, complete with wrongly framed arguments. Go ahead and downvote me or write a pithy faux angry response. This is social media. It’s fucking meaningless. Voting had meaning. As do the mass deportations that are the cornerstone of Trump’s campaign promises. You petty fucks.

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-2 points

Nothing is changing. The voters won’t change. The DNC must be held accountable now.

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4 points

I agree, and said so in 80, 84, 88, 2000, 2004, and 2016.

“If only they had done-“ still ignores two key points:

  • Anyone can step up, so . . . where are these political masterminds the other 1400 days
  • running a political party, or any organization with thousands of people in it, is hard as shit
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5 points

The DNC silences anyone that isn’t a neocon establishment pick. They don’t let the people have a voice and just listen to their donors. They need to have real open primaries where they do not obstruct the outcome. Once they can find their maverick like Republicans found theirs maybe they’ll start winning decisively again.

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So you think the 8-15 million potential voters so politically disengaged that they didn’t vote…

Spend their time hanging out on political forums?

The people you see online talking about it are politically engaged, which is why almost all of us voted D like every other election since we’ve been 18.

The ones you’re mad at will never see your insults.

And pointing out this years strategy was fucking stupid does still matter.

It mattered more years ago when we had plenty of time before the 2024 election, but it matters today for the 2028 election.too

Our country can’t afford the only options to be fascists and halfway fascists, we can’t keep moving to the right and expect anything to change

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18 points

Thank you. Republicans did all these things and won. These posts look like a narrative being pushed to divide us further.

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No, no, but they ‘understand’ the choice of abstainers to embrace fascism.

It rings as hollow to me as the annual pancake-breakfast op-ed by city liberals before every fucking election about how rural Republicans have Legitimate Grievances™.

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-19 points

You just sound sad, to be honest. Take some time away from the internet, to heal, to organise, to prepare for the next fight. Don’t give yourself up to hate as well, as it will only eat you from the inside.

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1 point

Hate has motivated me.

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17 points

I voted for her. This meme is still correct.

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57 points

I agree with both you and the meme. You’re right that everyone should have sucked it up and voted for Kamala anyway. The meme is right because the Dems fucked this royally at several stages. Yes, American voters have made a decision that I massively disagree with… But you also have to recognise the vast political mistakes the party have made that led to this point.

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32 points

I have no skin in this game, but if the two options are that clear, you absolutely can blame the voters.

At the end of the day, this rhetoric is trying to find absolution by delegating responsibility to a higher authority. Not we, the voters, are wrong, it’s the party elites, that forced us to vote fascism into power because the other offer wasn’t good enough. It’s not our fault, it’s theirs.

No, you don’t get a pass. Germany didn’t get a pass, either. And rightly so.

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Voters are blameless, they don’t get to choose how the parties manipulate them into voting or what they do afterwards.

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0 points

Germany absolutely got a pass though?

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2 points

What mistakes specifically?

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3 points

Well, directly funding genocide is one that SO many people have been calling out as a mistake for over a year now.

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7 points

They pushed further right to try and court republican voters who want nothing to do with them, and alienated their own base.

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8 points

Yeah. Fuck.

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3 points

Hatred and racism didn’t win because the other party had an non-perfect policy.

Hatred and racism won because not enough people cared to vote against it.

You’re fucking complicit. And when you’re complicit with fascism, you’re also a fascist.

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14 points

You’re fucking complicit.

No my dude, I voted for her. I don’t agree with the decision from those who didn’t vote or voted elsewhere.

But I understand. /ChrisRock

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13 points

That sentiment might be the one that pisses me off the most.

I wanted her to win. I voted for her myself.

I also saw how her campaign was fucking up constantly. Neutering Walz, embracing early 00s Republicans from Cheney to Frum, ceding all argument on immigration to the fascists…

The list goes on and on.

The Democrats had a billion dollars and all the goodwill in JULY. I’m so mad at them. The party needs to burn and something else needs to be rebuilt in its place.

I am not interested in voting for the candidate of choice of Liz Cheney, Richard Spencer, and the Lincoln Project.

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3 points

It turns out to be difficult to do.

That is if you’re not a demented sociopath backed by an armada of billionaire propagandists.

But sure, letting Liz Cheney support her was bad too. I guess.

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33 points

You forget the last part of the trick:

Double down, blame everyone else, go even further to the right. Then collect an even bigger check from billionaires

The DNC doesn’t exist to get Dems in office, it’s only purpose these days is to make sure when the billionaires lose, they just win a little less then they would have.

At this point there’s no other explanation for why they’re so fucking bad at getting a Dem elected.

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2 points

No argument here!

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8 points

So when we burning it down? It’d be better to start now, not 3 years from now.

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4 points

They’ll demand we start burning the system down just before the next election, don’t worry.

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3 points

If anyone wants to make an actual difference, the big time to do so would actually be midterms. I’m pretty sure we’ll still have 2026 midterm elections, so working to replace pro-corporate Democrats in historically safe Dem districts would be the place to start. Checking in with any politically active leftist groups in your area is a good way to start finding candidates to rally around, and local protests are generally a great place to connect with leftist groups.

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1 point

Well never have midterms. The reds won’t want to risk giving up any co trol.

“If I win, you’ll never have to vote again!”

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3 points

If you couldn’t see that Harris would be near-infinitely better than Trump, you might be the problem

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14 points

Sorry, I forgot I have to preface every criticism with “I voted for Harris, but”

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1 point

So did everyone else. Since we can’t make that a requirement, I guess we’ll just have to give them the benefit of the- heyyyyyyyy waitaminit!

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17 points

This was a race between a B student and an orangutan throwing feces everywhere. We’re spending all our time talking about the questions the B student got wrong, but in the meantime we voted the orangutan as valedictorian and all he did was smear shit on the test and try to hump the microphone stand.

No her mistakes aren’t the problem. The problem is we’re willing to elect a monkey to shit on everything and blame an average decent person for losing.

Fuck…

A class of kids would TOTALLY elect a monkey… We’re just old high schoolers… We’re so fucked…

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Well that’s the problem, innit? The orange shit heap will get a good chunk of votes from the idiots no matter what. So the other candidate needs to be an A grade to attract the rest of the votes, otherwise the pile of feces will win. At this point it’s obvious the diarrhea puddle can do whatever he wants and still get his share of votes, so asking why he can do and say whatever and get away with it is pointless.

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Well, this was their last opportunity.

“When I win, you’ll never have to vote again!”

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0 points

I don’t really believe this. Trump says a lot of stupid things to stay in the headlines, it makes his followers think the media is against him and nothing they say is true. Remember when he wanted to lock her up? Or build the wall.

In saying that, I also have to say this is one of the biggest things I wouldn’t want to be wrong about.

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