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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy dismissed U.S. President-elect Donald Trump’s proposal for a rapid peace deal with Russia, arguing it would lead to a “loss” for Ukraine.

Trump, who has repeatedly claimed he could resolve the war in 24 hours, aims for a quick end, but Zelenskyy insists that a rushed settlement would compromise Ukraine’s independence.

Speaking in Budapest, Zelenskyy also rejected Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán’s call for a cease-fire, citing failed attempts in 2014.

Additionally, he warned of North Korean troop involvement in Ukraine if Western allies don’t increase political pressure on Pyongyang.

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Ukraine don’t want to give up territory. Russia demands territory to end the war. Trump has offered to resolve this in 24h. The conclusion seems clear: Trump has to offer Russia some parts of the US in exchange for releasing the occupied regions in Ukraine?

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“They forced Russia”. How? By already letting Russia keep Crimea?

Go back to hexbear

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In what World justifies this an attack on another country? Thats dumb. Go back sleepin.

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13 points

Wow, this russian asset was easy to spot…

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Russia invaded before any NATO stuff happened though? Repeatedly, time after time? Almost like Putin is an evil piece of shit you support?

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They did not join Nato, got invaded twice ANYWAY… Almost like it was never about NATO, huh, go figure.

Finland joined NATO - not invaded… Go figure!

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_213448.htm

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122 points

Good job to everyone sacrificing Ukrainian and Palestinian lives to send a message to the Democrats!

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71 points

Don’t forget all the American lives yet to be sacrificed!

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35 points

But at least they stopped the genocide in Palestine!

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Huh, that’s weird, .ml is strangely quiet in this thread, you’d think they would have something to say, considering how much they screamed the last 3 months.

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11 points

They sped it up and they love it

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By stopped I’m assuming you mean “finished”?

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13 points

Just one-issue voters sticking it to the union as usual.

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Yeah but they at least got to give kamela the middle finger!

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Trump’s 24-hours war solving: “Ukraine is now part of Russia”

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Trump to Baltic states: “I am altering the deal, pray I do not alter it further.”

Just kidding: “You better say nice things about me or you’re next!”

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The Baltics are in a much stronger position than Ukraine. They are in Nato already, and are geographically important as a buffer to the only Nato members who actually take Russia as a serious threat (Norway, Sweden, Finland and Poland.) Tactically, air and sea defence of the Baltics is externally feasible, and the Baltics nations have focused on building land defense over the recent years. If you combine this with the obvious Russian war fatigue, and lack of resources, it is clear the Russia doesn’t have the capacity to invade the Baltics over the next two years at least, even if the Belarusians participated.

All of this becomes even harder if the Russians are gifted Ukraine and have to occupy it militarily.

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It’s just crap like this

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They ARE next, no matter what.

Europe should start sending European troops in to defend the Ukraine now, because if Trump gets his way Putin will not stop and just start picking off European countries one by one and trump will make peace by just forcing the countries to surrender

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Solving a complex geopolitical situation involving two nations at war…in 24 hours. I wonder if he was lying?

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Wait till he gets to Gaza.

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I mean… it’s been more than 24 hours by now, hasn’t it?

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Sounds like the young American leftists who think they have the answer to the millennia long Israel/Palestine conflict.

Their answer, let the fascist rule

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12 points

stop crying in every thread about this topic and get your own party in line

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Go fund mutual aid and volunteer to fight

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I often see the argument “Which part of your country would you be willing to cede in the name of peace?”

Normally this would be a valid argument, but in trumps case, I’m sure he’d gladly cede California or some other blue state if it meant he gained something from it. He has no scruples or integrity, and thinks other heads of state are the same.

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As a Canadian I accept California as our next province.

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I’m sure a lot of California (except from the meth counties) would like that too these days.

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Wait take Illinois too we’re good with it I promise

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Florida

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I can’t wait for Texas to leave. They say the want to, fuckin’ do it pussies.

Edit: yes, I know there are many innocent people there, but it’s not like the federal government is protecting them now anyway.

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I’m pretty sure most of the blue states, California especially, would be happy to leave the union at this point. What’s in it for us?

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Imagine all the blue states (2 of which are top 3 in GDP) left the states?! I’ll gladly accept Cali and NY into Canada!

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Blue state anyways … \s

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I would gladly be willing to cede Alabama, Mississippi and Texas for peace.

With a slightly growling Chihuahua I saw across the street.

Or like, a baby kitten that wanted my ball of string.

You know what? This conversation is concerning me, here, take my Texas, please!

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Saxony. Although it’s basically controlled by Russia already.

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Add Thüringen too.

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Florida

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Dumb question, how would the electoral college be reallocated if a large state like California left?

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It needs to be realocated even now and it isn’t. No reason to think a secession would change things.

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honestly any that wants to leave (by a democratic referendum) and doesn’t cause any exclaves or enclaves to exist

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