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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy dismissed U.S. President-elect Donald Trump’s proposal for a rapid peace deal with Russia, arguing it would lead to a “loss” for Ukraine.

Trump, who has repeatedly claimed he could resolve the war in 24 hours, aims for a quick end, but Zelenskyy insists that a rushed settlement would compromise Ukraine’s independence.

Speaking in Budapest, Zelenskyy also rejected Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán’s call for a cease-fire, citing failed attempts in 2014.

Additionally, he warned of North Korean troop involvement in Ukraine if Western allies don’t increase political pressure on Pyongyang.

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Good job to everyone sacrificing Ukrainian and Palestinian lives to send a message to the Democrats!

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Don’t forget all the American lives yet to be sacrificed!

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But at least they stopped the genocide in Palestine!

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They sped it up and they love it

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Huh, that’s weird, .ml is strangely quiet in this thread, you’d think they would have something to say, considering how much they screamed the last 3 months.

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By stopped I’m assuming you mean “finished”?

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Yeah but they at least got to give kamela the middle finger!

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Just one-issue voters sticking it to the union as usual.

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Interesting video about the subject from Ryan McBeth

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Ryan is good explaining how military operates, how weapon works, but this is really about predicting what trump will do, and frankly this is much harder to do.

We talk about common sense, it is a non brainier, as helping Ukraine stop Russia is the most beneficial thing for the US and the West. As he pointed out, Ukraine losing likely will bring war to the rest of the Europe and Taiwan, but trump might not care.

What worries me is that so far trump never stood up against putin, he insulted many world leaders, but never did that to putin.

The reason likely is that he was almost bankrupt and putin help him get on his feet, he has a huge debt to him.

I also link to Anders Puck Nielsen https://youtu.be/gOwjmKMmkV4 he is generally more familiar with strategy and so far was on point in his comments (I also believe Ryan is watching him too). Again, we are trying to predict what trump will do, which is not as easy and his decisions seem to be more about what gives him immediate benefit.

The absolute worst scenario that could happen is that the NATO collapses. I hope that won’t happen.

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Trump has been a Russian asset since the 80s. His ties to Russian criminal organizations have been known since then, but the FBI has never been able to get any charges to stick.

The CIA believed that he gave Putin information about current intelligence operations and agents against Russia during his presidency enough to request an inquiry which led to the FBI raid on Mar a Lago, where they found confidential documents on CIA activity amongst all the other confidential documents illegally held there after his term.

He will side with Russia, guaranteed.

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The CIA has good reason to believe Trump gave information, because in the span of several weeks after a private meeting with Putin while Trump was president, a whole pile of their Russian and Eastern European intelligence agents and assets dropped off the face of the Earth or wound up dead.

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but this is really about predicting what trump will do

Trump plays pigeon chess — it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory.

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Solving a complex geopolitical situation involving two nations at war…in 24 hours. I wonder if he was lying?

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Sounds like the young American leftists who think they have the answer to the millennia long Israel/Palestine conflict.

Their answer, let the fascist rule

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stop crying in every thread about this topic and get your own party in line

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Go fund mutual aid and volunteer to fight

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Wait till he gets to Gaza.

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I mean… it’s been more than 24 hours by now, hasn’t it?

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I often see the argument “Which part of your country would you be willing to cede in the name of peace?”

Normally this would be a valid argument, but in trumps case, I’m sure he’d gladly cede California or some other blue state if it meant he gained something from it. He has no scruples or integrity, and thinks other heads of state are the same.

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Blue state anyways … \s

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I would gladly be willing to cede Alabama, Mississippi and Texas for peace.

With a slightly growling Chihuahua I saw across the street.

Or like, a baby kitten that wanted my ball of string.

You know what? This conversation is concerning me, here, take my Texas, please!

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I’m pretty sure most of the blue states, California especially, would be happy to leave the union at this point. What’s in it for us?

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Imagine all the blue states (2 of which are top 3 in GDP) left the states?! I’ll gladly accept Cali and NY into Canada!

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Saxony. Although it’s basically controlled by Russia already.

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Add Thüringen too.

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As a Canadian I accept California as our next province.

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Wait take Illinois too we’re good with it I promise

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I’m sure a lot of California (except from the meth counties) would like that too these days.

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Florida

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Florida

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I can’t wait for Texas to leave. They say the want to, fuckin’ do it pussies.

Edit: yes, I know there are many innocent people there, but it’s not like the federal government is protecting them now anyway.

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Dumb question, how would the electoral college be reallocated if a large state like California left?

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It needs to be realocated even now and it isn’t. No reason to think a secession would change things.

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honestly any that wants to leave (by a democratic referendum) and doesn’t cause any exclaves or enclaves to exist

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