At some point I have to start wondering if Putin pays these sorts of people.
Translating .ml rules as they’re actually enforced:
- Don’t criticise Russia, China, or Hamas.
- Don’t criticise ML, LG, HB.
Those rules are enforced regardless of the piece of criticism being valid or invalid.
ok liberal
Pick whatever instance you find first, they said. It doesn’t really matter which one, you can participate all over lemmy, they said.
Now every time i post a comment, people automatically assume I’m pro Russia and a tankie on account of having an account on lemmy.ml
This sucks. I can’t believe I’m gonna have to migrate instances to be taken seriously on discussions.
Remember in the early days of the Fediverse when people said it was all about “freeze peach”? Yeah that was not good. Not only is it wrong and would disappoint and piss off a lot of people when they learn about defederation and that you can still get banned, but it also attracts a lot of extremely rotten people to the platform. Remember exploding-heads? Yeah that was a side effect of that lie to try and promote the Fediverse.
We don’t believe you, you tankie vatnik.
/s obviously.
FYI, just making a new user on a different instance isn’t a big deal. Guess why there’s a “3” in my user name. Come to think of it, my first account was on lemmy.ml too, although the main reason why I moved at that time was because I forgot the password.
I probably would’ve signed up at lemmy.ml if they hadn’t closed registrations in the Reddit migration, very glad I didn’t though from what has happened there. I signed up to Lemmy.world instead, and even though it is problematic in many ways at least the Admins there aren’t trigger happy power tripping bastards, trying to promote their pro-russia tankie shit.
People are dumb everywhere. You’re not really wondering about that hm? 😉 I wouldn’t migrate because of that. Quite the contrary, the dumdums sort themselves out this way, saves a lot of time.
But what you also have to consider, migrating instances sends a signal. Its the same as people who stopped using twitter because of musk. When you continue using something you make it look like you font really care, so migrating your account is a good way to tell the admins that you dislike their policies.
While you’re totally right regarding twitter, i can’t say the same for those instances. I’m not deep enough in the matter to allow myself an opinion. I just don’t know about any politics about any instance. If there is, you’re totally right then too. Leaving is the best bet. If I’d knew my instance would wanna push a certain narrative, even if it’d be congruent with mine, I’d leave.
Yeah same. I moved after seeing too many words being censored like removed.
I was flabbergasted when I found out the word Chicken was sometimes censored. It would put removeden. Really saved me from those nuggets of hurtful baby hens.
On the one hand, a quick check of the author’s posts shows that he is just an obvious pro-NATO shill and his question was in bad faith, so Dessalines did nothing wrong by kicking him out.
On the other hand, this thread could have led to an insightful discussion that would have been interesting to read, so it’s a shame that it was removed.
In the very beginning, .ml had the unique vibe of a truly decentralized international community with thousands of people from all over the world with different worldviews, leading to fiery and thought-provoking discussions in threads. Unfortunately, it is now actively turning into a hexbear/grad style far-left echo chamber.
This may be a controversial opinion, but I think instances and communities should just ban people for acting in bad faith. There’s very little actual insightful discussion that you can have without someone trying to just win some unilateral debate with some really obnoxious comments. I hate seeing people arguing and being rude all over the place.
I try my best to be the change I want to see in the world, but it’s really tough sometimes to try and stay positive and constructive when you’re just enduring endless personal insults
Very true and very well said.
Though multiple things can be true at once - if both OP was acting in bad faith (I didn’t look) and people get banned from Lemmy.ml at the drop of a hat, i.e. moderation is done in bad faith as well.
I get what you are saying - and yes, compassion is awesome - but also, look at the history of that instance and you’ll see what I mean. If they really have lost the faith then they could step down as moderator of that instance and allow someone else to take that burden. Or just shut it down entirely (that’s what the dmv.social instance did, when they felt like the pressure was too much). Not that I am advocating for either option (especially since the next person who replaces them would likely be actively worse at this point?), but just pointing out that after receiving the bad vibes, spreading them further is still a matter of choice.
To be fair, the first part of the sentence kinda sounds like an accusation against Russians. However, it isn’t something i would consider worthy to be deleted.
