At some point I have to start wondering if Putin pays these sorts of people.

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Translating .ml rules as they’re actually enforced:

  1. Don’t criticise Russia, China, or Hamas.
  2. Don’t criticise ML, LG, HB.

Those rules are enforced regardless of the piece of criticism being valid or invalid.

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ok liberal

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The thread the comment was in. Seemed like a very relevant question.

https://lemmy.world/post/21619412

Note that dessalines isn’t even a moderator of the community, but a lemmy.ml instance admin. Instance rule 1 is related to bigotry, so according to Lemmy dev dessalines, it’s bigoted to ask the russian population if they are oppressed or support their country invading ukraine.

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That’s mod rule 1. Admin rule #1 is “Don’t get visited by the KGB”.

Maybe we shouldn’t hang out on servers where Russia has jurisdiction.

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Wait are you exaggerating/joking or is ML literally hosted in Russia?

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The domain is registered in Mali, hence .ml. Not sure where Dessalines and Nutomic are from.

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I like it here on lemmy. But people like this being main devs leaves sour taste to it

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I think a lot of people are going to switch to piefed once that gets more fleshed out. It federates with all lemmy but has a different and more open dev team working on it. They already have a bunch of cool features lemmy is currently lacking.

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Piefed looks like an interesting project for sure. I don’t know much about it though - are they getting close to feature parity with Lemmy?

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In many ways they already are ahead. The front end is a bit wonky though, and some of the foundational features are still catching up (it’s fully functioning though).

For one thing, they have “categories” of communities, and for another I can block all users from any instance I choose - though there is really no easy way to accomplish that while still on Lemmy proper.

But like when you upvote something, later it remembers that but won’t show you the color. The interface is really pretty though, and solves several of the issues I had with Lemmy, like another one is that you can turn on viewing or both the upvote and separate downvote counts, which for Lemmy iirc you can only see that for comments, but for posts that only shows on the mobile site yet not on the desktop for some reason.

The PieFed devs are super responsive, quite extraordinary so imho. It’s like they care or something (uh… cause they do, ofc!:-).

So especially since Lemmy is not perfect either, check out both Mbin and PieFed and just see them in action without an account, just for the fun of it.:-)

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I think a lot of people are going to switch to piefed

The big problem is that it isn’t really possible for instances to switch from Lemmy to PieFed, or any other ActivityPub software.

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Once a Piefed instance is mature enough, I could consider asking a few communities I mod if they would be okay to migrate to it.

!casualconversation@lemm.ee for instance doesn’t really need to be able to edit past posts, and we already moved from LW to lemm.ee. Moving again to another instance wouldn’t be that different.

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By “a lot” I’m guessing you mean a steady and eventually declining population of a few thousand monthly users?

We don’t.have a lot of users, even if everyone switches they won’t get a lot of users.

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Now i recall why there’s a push against migrating to lemmy when reddit blackout happened. I thought it doesn’t really matter, turns out they’re right.

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It would be much better if more servers actively defederated or limited their server, that way the things they say and do would have less effect on the other servers that aren’t affiliated with them.

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Yeah, it was and is the major issue with lemmy I think.

On the other hand, it’s an open source project amd there are likely other contributors that don’t agree with them ideologically. And as long as you don’t interact with the .ml instance it should not effect you.

There will be assholes everywhere.

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It honestly makes me concerned about the broader security risks of using lemmy. There’s a lot of opportunity for them to target users they don’t like by serving them malicious content via lemmy.ml, and they have shown nothing to indicate that they are above this kind of thing imo.

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There is a way to block an instance, no? Or maybe I don’t understand what you mean…

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Not really. Well, instance admins can defederate from it, but as a normal user you have a pitifully small list of all not easy choices. First, a couple apps like Sync and Connect can (but for them I don’t know if they would block e.g. images from there); second is move to PieFed or Mbin (I moved to PieFed myself, but could not find this post there so had to come back to my previous account, as an alt now I guess, to be able to reply here - so it’s got issues); third is move to one of only 3 tiny instances that I’ve ever heard of that have blocked it; fourth is spin up your own instance, and defederate from them. The long version.

Edit: oh, there is a basic Lemmy “instance block”, which blocks only communities on those instances - but not users, their posts, replies, votes, etc., and even that much was rolled back somewhere between 0.19.3 and 0.19.5 so that they can now send notifications to you. So it is very misleading named. The last one there is what almost caused me to leave the Fediverse entirely when I accidentally replied to one comment in ChapoTrapHouse and another somewhere in lemmygrad.ml. The replies to each kept coming in for WEEKS and WEEKS, long after I wanted it to end. The rule “remember the human” seemed to not apply to them.

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56 points

Tankies gonna tank. Never question the orthodoxy in an echo bunker.

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This is a community in the spirit of “Am I The Asshole” where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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  • Provide the cause of the sanction (e.g. the text of the comment).
  • Provide the reason given by the mods for the sanction.
  • Don’t use private communications to prove your point. We can’t verify them and they can be faked easily.
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  • Do not downvote posts if you think they deserved it. Use the comment votes (see below) for that.
  • You can post about power trippin’ in any social media, not just lemmy. Feel free to post about reddit or a forum etc.

Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.

Make sure you follow this instance’s code of conduct. In other words we won’t allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.


Some acronyms you might see.

  • PTB - Power-Tripping Bastard: The commenter agrees with you this was a PTB mod.
  • YDI - You Deserved It: The commenter thinks you deserved that mod action.
  • BPR - Bait-Provoked Reaction: That mod probably overreacted in charged situation, or due to being baited.
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