• Former President Donald Trump said that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s proposal to remove fluoride from the U.S. water systems “sounds okay” to him.
  • Kennedy, who is poised to play a health policy role in a potential Trump administration, recently wrote, “The Trump White House will advise all U.S​. water systems to remove fluoride from public water.”
  • According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, “the safety and benefits of fluoride are well documented and have been reviewed comprehensively by several scientific and public health organizations.”
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The Obama-appointed US judge Edward Chen found fluoridation could cause developmental damage and lower IQ in children at levels to which the public is generally exposed in drinking water. Though the ruling did not state the level at which fluoridation would damage brains, the levels in US water present an unreasonable risk, the court found.

The EPA now must perform a risk assessment that is among the first steps in setting new limits under the Toxic Substances Control Act.

Armed with a growing body of scientific evidence pointing toward fluoride’s neurotoxicity, public health advocates say the legal win shows they are overcoming “institutional inertia” and the unwillingness of federal public health agencies to admit they may have been wrong.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/04/fluoridation-water-epa-risk-assessement

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I thought IQ testing itself was scientifically dubious

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Though the ruling did not state the level at which fluoridation would damage brains

This right here. The levels have to be many times that in drinking water for it to have any harmful effects.

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fluoride in water doesnt do much for teeth but we will notice if they replace it because the alternatives taste gross.

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What’s the big deal with Fluoride in drinking water in the US? Like most European, I don’t get fluoride enriched drinking water and it’s never been a big deal.

Don’t you guys use toothpaste with Fluoride?

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I’m from Germany and they usually put it in the salt.

You can just use salt without Fluorid if you want to believe in conspiracies.

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You may be thinking of iodine?

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That too

Edit: But I think you’re right, it’s mainly iodine what I recalled. Fluorid is pretty rare I think. They put it in the toothpaste though.

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It specifically helps kids who haven’t gotten in the habit of brushing properly yet. We have non-fluoride parts of the country that show higher cases of child dental work needed. We also eat a lot of high fructose corn syrup.

Overall for the whole population it is a net gain.

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Yeah it’s in the toothpaste, but is also in the city water. Problem is there are many cities with way more than the recommended limits. It’s one of those situations where the fringe weirdos may actually have had a point.

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Isn’t novamin or Nano-HAP far superior to flouride anyway?

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Flouride is better at preventing damage because it actually chemically alters your tooth enamel to a more stable form but it does nothing to repair existing damage. Nano-HAP can very very slowly reverse existing damage but it doesn’t do much to harden the teeth against future damage. They’re both better at their own thing. I’m pretty sure current studies don’t show one being overall better than the other.

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what does white house “advice” actually mean for this? sounds pretty toothless luckily.

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I see what you did there

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