- Title: “Maiden Mother Crone”
- Release Date: October 30, 2024
- Discussion Hub
The whole “witches road” being a scam by Agatha feels on-brand, but on a meta level I’m a bit sad that they took a concept from the comics and turned it into that.
I like how Billy realized “I’m a murderer”, and Agatha goes “no you’re not, I would have killed all of them in my basement, you even saved Jen”.
Oh, and a ghost going “are you ignoring me?” is somehow very funny to me ngl
Last episode where Billy is wondering if he’s killing “Tommy” in order to save Tommy was brilliant (and honestly still unresolved). Agatha taking ownership still feels like a lie. Sure you didn’t kill them because I was going to first… But effectively… Yeah, he did. It’s similar to Wanda not meaning to enslave Westview, but she did.
I enjoyed it
I wish we got more of Agatha and Rio’s relationship and Nicky’s death. Is Agatha just unable to face him because she used his song to kill untold amount of witches? Is the only way that Rio hurt Agatha is that she took Nicky? Her job? I just feel like I was expecting a better story there. Other than that I thought it was fantastic. It felt like a short episode but it wasn’t.
The implication I got was that Agatha was giving Rio bodies in a sort of unspoken deal to keep Nicky alive–hence her coming and taking him when Nicky backed out. Going a step further, maybe Rio knew that Nicky was no longer going to go along with the plan after this one time that he refused, so he no longer served her needs.
The idea there would be that Agatha can’t face him because of the deal she made him an unwitting party to. Based on his nature and how Agatha described him, it seems like if he had known why they were out killing witches constantly (trading their entire lives for an extension of his own), he would not approve.
Hm, but imo that is not really shown on screen. We only see Rio telling Agatha at birth “I can give you some time, nothing more” and then show up again to take him when he clearly fell ill.
I think the fact that Agatha can’t face Nicholas means there is still something extra that needs to be resolved. Billy says “is this what you did to Nicholas Scratch” and while the answer is clearly “no” it clearly still hits Agatha.
I think Rio and Agatha still have a deal or understanding or something. It’s clear they had a relationship. However Agatha had a child which requires a third party (or magic, since “from scratch”). There is something untold between Agatha and Rio.
I think Agatha did A LOT for Nicholas, but she wasn’t willing to give her own life, something she did do for Billy. So that is what she still has to face.
So… at the start of this episode I was like “oh god, please don’t make this a flashback episode”. And then the flashbacks kept going for over 20 minutes. Once again the Marvel writers wrote themselves into a corner by deciding “we need to show this, but it doesn’t fit anywhere so we’ll cram it into the last episode”. Works better than in other shows but still not ideal. The whole episode basically feels like a tag to the finale that was episode 8.
As long as there’s still a chance this loops around to Agatha becoming Franklin Reed’s nanny, anything is fine. We got the grey hair at least, that’s one step!