Okay the title is a bit exaggerated, but honestly not far off. This post is very mundane and a bit long, but thought it fits the community.

I’m visiting my home country and went shopping for pants, there were “30% off everything!” signs with a tiny text underneath that said “member discount” (don’t have membership). Not a problem, did not notice and I don’t care for such marketing tricks to get you into the store but okay.

Picked up couple of pants, went to the cashier and they asked me “do you have our membership?” - I answered no and expected the follow up question whether I’d like to join, but, to my positive surprise the cashier just happily responded “okay, not a problem!” and continued to bag my stuff.

I stood ready to pay and then the cashier said “now I just need your phone number and you can pay”. Hold up. What. I did not expect that, I honestly had a burst of anger inside me (never gonna take it on a cashier, they are just doing their job). I asked nicely why do I need to give my phone number and I was told that to register me as a member so I can get the discount.

I declined and said I don’t want to join and would like to just pay.

The entire interaction after questioning why they need my phone number was awkward, as if I had been the first person to decline, the weirdo, aluminum foil hat wearing hermit.

This was just one of many interactions in the recent years that make me feel as if I was a weirdo for not sharing all my info around. The worst is when everyone keeps telling me “its just an app, just download it and use that why do you make things complicated” or “just sign up you don’t need to pay anything”.

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Give fake information every time. Waste the cashiers time with questions. Make them pay for it.

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Ah, I was wondering where all the Karens went.

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Cool assumption bro. Hope that works out for you.
I am never rude to the poor people that have to work retail. I know the pain; I have been on the other side of the counter.

What I’m talking about is malicious compliance.

They tell the cashiers to push the program and be helpful? Fine. I will let that cashier be the most helpful employee ever and at the same time gum up the company data collection system with fake information.

At the same time as more punshment to the company they will see reduced sales and throughput requiring additional cashiers (more hours/pay for those people).

But please bring on the fake internet point brigade.

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Why you assume your have to be rude? They are all underpaid by the hour…you think the cashier gives a damn about answering dumb questions when they themselves ask for personal info that IS NOT REQUIRED.

Waste their time…cashiers don’t give a shit

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I didn’t say to be rude to the cashier. They make hourly wage, doesn’t matter how many people they check out.

Make the company pay. Cause less product to be sold per hour. Cause more cashiers to be required. Make it more expensive to have the data collection program than to not have it. Be the change you want to see in the world.

Or just let them get away with it. Your call.

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Yeah, that’ll teach a lesson the minimum wage employee who didn’t make the rules.

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It doesn’t waste their time. They are getting paid by the hour. As long as you are friendly it doesn’t hurt anyone to give a wrong phone number to get a discount.

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Except the person you just signed up for unwanted spam texts.

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I am absolutely not advocating rudeness to the cashier.

Give them the opportunity for malicious compliance.

Allow them to answer every question and have a pleasant break from the monotony, knowing full well that they are being cheerful and helpful just like the training videos and handbook demand they be.

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“Would you like to donate money to us that we pretty pretty promise will go to some vague charity while we reap the tax benefits? No? Are you sure? Fine, we’ll just ask you next time (regardless of your answer this time).”

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What tax benefits? Sure they can deduct the donation, but that just cancels out the income from you giving them the money to donate. It’s net zero for the company.

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I hear the charity tax myth all the time and I don’t understand why everyone just believes it.

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Obviously, it’s not possible for a store to claim a tax deduction for a customer’s charity donation. But, the store can claim tax deductions for the cost of collecting the donated money on the charities behalf.

Costs would include: a percentage of the staff members salary for asking the customer to donate, equipment costs to modify the registers to process donations, a percentage of the credit card transaction fees, a percentage of the shop lease costs, etc etc.

Initially, it sounds ridiculous as the real costs of what I listed above would realistically land somewhere between zero and shit-all. But we can be sure that the businesses that ask their customers for charity donations have all the numbers geared heavily in their favor.

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Would you like to donate to the Cut Child Hunger in Half fund?

Plot twist: Literally

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Be as rude, as harmful and as immoral to them as legally possible. These advertising system workers don’t deserve anything good.

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Not to retail workers. The vast majority of them are underpaid and overworked. Between the stressful nature of a job like that and the various stresses that tend to come along with being an adult working for anywhere near minimum wage they probably don’t have the mental bandwidth to care about anything beyond their ability to get by. You’re not going to change anything by being a dick to someone like that.

Now if you happen to run into a developer or similarly paid person for a company like Meta or Google, absolutely be a dick to them. They’ve chosen to work for evil and have the means to choose otherwise. Acute social pressure could actually make them care and choose something else.

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You’re very kind, mister/miss. On the other hand, my opinion is very radical. The problem is that retail workers not only are a part of the system but also they often mind it and argue when you try not to opt in for privacy-hostile memberships. Some of them may do it because of stress but it’s impossible to know every one’s case so just ruining lives of all of them should be good enough. After all if they didn’t care, they wouldn’t mind us opting out.

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Not exactly setting the good example.

Be excellent, but that does not mean you need to spend your attention to them. Let that kind of advertising system quietly die.

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Well your opinion on this is valid too. Mine is unpopular so I expected disagreements.

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Love that - I throw a bomb, wally away, and sometimes they kill each other disproving/approving me. 😄

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/s, right?

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No.

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I wonder where you live that that happened. In America you’re expected to say no, cashiers don’t care. They don’t get paid enough to.

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This happened in Finland, but I didn’t want to specify it to spark a universal conversation, which succeeded!

I know people from all around the globe deal with privacy issues and hoped that others would share their experiences.

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