I’d guess my net environmental impact is just now lower than US average because, despite my fuel consumption when moving my home, it’s tiny, energy independent, and it doesn’t move far or frequently. I don’t really know. I just don’t want to be judged unfairly, particularly when seeking help trying to do it even better.
I want to downsize my truck for cost and fuel efficiency. I’ve had this truck, my first, for a year, 3.5k miles. I’ve towed the trailer a short thousand miles without incident and including city, highway, and interstate.
Current setup:
'19 Chevy 2500 6.0L 4WD
Hitch towing ~2.5 tons GVWR (14’, enclosed, tandem, brakes)
Getting 8mpg @ 70-75mph
Next truck budget is $10-20k. I’ll keep it probably until the frame rots. I’m planning on replacing shocks & wearable steering components, am not averse to some work.
Should I target a 1/2 ton gas (leaning Ford 5.0L 4WD), a different 3/4 ton gas (which and why), or a 3/4 ton diesel (leaning Dodge Cummins)?
The paper numbers say I should get a 1/2 ton gas. But, my more experienced friend thinks I’ll be a lot happier spending more for a diesel because diesel engines can last a long time, it’ll at least double my fuel efficiency, and it’s a little extra overkill for an easier tow.
I’m open to all informed perspectives. What’s my best plan and why?
Edit: I kept the Chevy 2500 6.0L because the local market didn’t support transition on the sale side. I also bought a '98 Dodge Cummins 12v diesel that needs work. It’ll eventually replace the other truck.
Toyota. You’re a fool to buy domestic, especially if you’re only towing 2.5 tons.
OK. Then, I ask with humility and respect, “Why?”.
My objection to the Tundra is that I could buy a diesel for nearly the same money that’d give me double the fuel economy and double the miles. And, it’s not going to be much more reliable than a domestic tuned and maintained by myself.
If I had to have the best gas 1/2 ton on the market then I think it’s a Tundra. But, I’m not looking for the best tool. It seems a 1/2 ton is a mistake. I want best value under the assumption labor is free.
What am I missing?
Kinda dead, but there’s a community for vehicle suggestions.
Diesel is clearly better if you are driving 20,000+miles per year. However you are not doing near that, so it won’t be worth the extra cost. Today diesel is so much more expensive than gas that the real advantage is only that diesel engines last longer, and in your case the body will fail first.
How much of your driving is towing vs unloaded? If you are only towing then a large engine is better - displacement = torque = more fuel efficient. However if you are mostly unloaded something like the Ford Ecoboost engine is much more fuel efficient unloaded and when towing you lean on the turbo to use more fuel (as much as the large displacement engine!) and so still have the power - but the engine won’t last as long overall and will break more often - thus not a good choice if you mostly tow.
I would lean to the 3/4 ton trucks. While a 1/2 ton truck has the specs to do the job, all of them are aimed at the luxury car market these days, and so they will make compromises that make them not as good for real work. 3/4 ton still is targeted at people doing real work and so they will have better compromises. (if you were asking 30 years ago a 1/2 ton would be fine)
Do you need something now? Electric trucks are just coming out and should start hitting the used market soon. They only do about 100 miles when towing, but are much more environmentally friendly if you can live with that limitation. I wouldn’t think about sticking with the truck you have now for 3 more years to see what happens here (and also 3 more years to get real world experience with how electric trucks really work for people in your application)
Depends on what you need.
I use my truck about the same as you. But get 13mpg towing, and 18 not.
1995 Ford 250 PSD.
It’s not comfortable, it’s not fast, it’s not fancy. But it’ll pull whatever I put behind it. Carry almost anything I will ever need to (definitely more than I want to physically unload), and it’s economical, and “future proof” in that I can modify in almost any way and still register without new diesel problems (high pressure pumps eating the entire system, def fluid and filter plugging, egr cooler plugging etc.)
Personally I’d say get an older diesel that is in ok shape that you can make what you need.
I think this might be a case where downsizing is actually a bad idea.
You have a six year vehicle that serves it’s purpose, why not invest in a micromobility option to save fuel while you’re not towing your trailer?
The '19 3/4 ton is worth $38k. It was a great truck for my wife and I to build experience. Only now, with some experience, do we know it can be done for half the price. But, with only a little experience, we’re not quite sure what our best choice is and why.
Can’t do an electric bicycle out here for lots of reasons, first and foremost range and speed. But, we’re thinking along those lines. We’re aiming at a 650 motorcycle in the next six months.
No problem, I gave you my opinion so hopefully someone else can give you the advice you’re looking for.
You did give me the advice I was looking for, sorta. You had me thinking, “How could downsizing be wrong”
Yesterday, every opportunity, three times, I asked someone else that was towing (random drivers stopped) what they thought. They all agree with you: Downsizing is not good.
Also, the diesel owner wishes he’d bought a gas. The gas owners wish they’d bought a diesel.
