My old 4790k finally died, and I need to replace both the CPU & MB. I was wondering if there would be any conflict in having an AMD CPU and an Nvidia GPU.
I want to use Bazzite on it. I’m running the same distro on my main rig and I’m very happy with it.
Any suggestions?
CPU is pretty much irrelevant to GPU choice.
Personally I wouldn’t buy any recent intel CPU with the dishonesty and major flaws in their products as of late, but that’s up to you to decide - AMD’s most recent CPUs haven’t been amazing either, but don’t have hardware flaws at least.
correct me if I’m wrong, but the performance issues in the new AMD chips were microsofts fault and they work fine on linux.
That is correct.
The number of flawed products was very small (only high end 13 and 14 gen) and it is now fixed as Intel has pinned down the root cause.
Don’t base your purchasing choices on that. The media loves to report major screw ups and rarely reports there fixes.
The number was not small. It was 10+ SKUs… which also happened to be most of the most popular ones.
Intel claimed multiple times to have fixed the issue, only for it to have not been fixed. Maybe it really is fixed this time, but who knows?
Also, stuff is often in warehouses for months. You could very easily still get an affected CPU. And intel has been very clear that they will not replace faulty CPUs. If you get a faulty CPU, you’re on your own.
It’s not worth the risk.
This is all on top of Intel having worse CPUs on a worse platform with zero upgrade path even if you ignore a lot of them being faulty, which you obviously shouldn’t.
The problem was caused by a bug in the CPU firmware. the issue is that the CPU requests higher voltages and tries to boost when it really can’t safely boost. The additional power doesn’t get used up and then decades the chip if you are unlucky. It was purely a software bug that caused hardware damage in some cases. New on the shelf units are not affected assuming they have up to date firmware. (Update your firmware always)
Also it only impacts high end 13 and 14 gen CPUs. If you are buying a high end chip that is 13th or 14th gen then just update the microcode. Also there are plenty of CPUs that are totally unaffected like the 12th gen and probably the 15th gen. Even if you have one of the affected CPUs there is only a relatively small chance of having and issue depending on the sillion and workload.
Don’t all flock to a single company. That drives up prices and limits completion. Intel has really done themselves a disservice by not being more transparent.
I mean, the issues were present and widely reported for several months before Intel even acknowledged the problems. And it wasn’t just media reporting this, it was also game server hosts who were seeing massive deployments failing at unprecedented rates. Even those customers, who get way better support than the average home user, were largely dismissed by intel for a long time. It then took several more months to ship a fix. The widespread nature of the issues points to a major failure on the companies part to properly QA and ensure their partners were given accurate guidance for motherboard specs. Even so, the patches only prevent further harm to the processor, it doesnt fix any damage that has already been incurred that could amount to years off of its lifespan. Sure they are doing an extended warranty, but thats still a band-aid.
I agree it doesnt mean one should completely dismiss the possibility of buying an Intel chip, but it certinally doesn’t inspire confidence.
Even if this was all an oversight or process failure, it still looks a lot like Intel as a whole deciding to ship chips that had a nice looking set of numbers despite those numbers being achieved through a degraded lifespan.
It is definitely was a dumpster fire. It just annoys me that people are going around spreading fear. It is bad but it isn’t affecting every system. It is bad but not completely panic worthy. You can totally not be affected by the problems even of you do have an affected product.
It isn’t a good look but hopefully this is a sobering experience for Intel
My i5 13600 had this issue. I thought I was safe. It barely boots up now. I wasn’t even running it 24/7. Like maybe 1- hours per day for 3 months.
It shouldn’t be impacted. First update the firmware to the latest version. Next, try switching the kernel power governor to performance.
I would RMA the chip personally as Intel has extending the warranty so you should be covered. They are struggling to replace all the chips but they are at least trying.
Go AMD.
There is basically 1 reason to go Intel cpu: quicksync video encoding. Amd’s is fine but intel’s is the gold standard.
Otherwise definitely go amd, it rocks Nvidia perfectly.
With AMD supporting their sockets for long periods of time, there’s -1 reasons to buy Intel.
Basically.
I like the E and p cores, mostly because I used to do a lot of core architecture for supercomputer chips and this was one of my ideas I wanted to implement, fully heterogenous cores with Linux support for scheduling.
But no, there’s no reason to pick Intel, I only got it because it was cheap, and I don’t use it for gaming.
I don’t have a good comparison for this since my Intel CPUs are from 2014 or earlier, but I was thoroughly impressed with how well my new AMD laptop did video encoding (compared to the only-as-expected bumps in performance otherwise). Do you have examples of how much better QuickSync is than VCN?
So VCN has caught up some, but QS is still faster, generally has better support and better codecs before VCN. Also has combinations, vainfo gives me something like 20 encoders on intel, 8 on amd, mostly stuff like 444 for each variant of hevc, etc. Also my 7600xt was more picky with which settings it would take, the intel block seems fairly comfortable with more.
My Xe has AV1 encode (at ludicrous speeds, I get 30x sometimes, it changed my flow entirely, I stream av1 only now), it’s had hevc well earlier than amd, and overall it’s usually a good bit faster (an intel igpu will usually encode faster than an amd dgpu).
Also quality has been reviewed to be better, feel free to google that, it’s apparently pretty marginal to human observers.
But like I said, the difference is nowhere like it was, AMD is catching up, software is coming together so vaapi covers most cases without complaint.
There’s no reason to consider the difference between them unless encoding is your primary focus, and you’re trying to use very modern codecs.
I’ve been an intel boy since I first started building computers in 2014.
Buy an AMD.
I was wondering if there would be any conflict in having an AMD CPU and an Nvidia GPU.
No.
