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Bottom line, if he can’t handle the stresses of a campaign then he can’t handle the stresses of the Presidency and you can bet your life that they’re already plotting to remove him by way of the 25th amendment inside of a year. So this isn’t about Trump anymore, this is about preventing a Vance Presidency Dictatorship.

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What stress as president? He just golfs and when pushed for a decision on something, just picks randomly from the options presented. He doesn’t even bother understand what the options are. Remember the whole injecting bleach crap? That was him literally glancing at a slide and running with it, obviously with no prior briefing.

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Not gonna happen. The 25th Amendment would require a majority of cabinet members to sign off, and Trump will pick them as total loyalists. Trump has control over the party, many of them view him as an infallible prophet. If they haven’t turned against him so far, they’re not gonna do it later. If Trump gets elected, we’re all gonna be along for a ride on the crazy train with him until he dies.

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That assumes Trump is a good enough judge of character to be able to tell actual loyalists from sycophants, which I strongly doubt he can.

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They said the same thing about Biden.

My point is it’s hypocritical made up shit.

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34 points

Well I guess I won’t vote for Biden OR Clinton this election!!

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8 points

Who?

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He’s suffering from frontotemporal dementia. This is relatively certain. The town hall was classic sundown syndrome. The fundamentalists know this and are going to have him removed from office shortly after the election (if he wins). The democrats would gladly take the opportunity to remove him, as would many republicans. Unfortunately that would put Vance in the oval office which should terrify anyone who doesn’t want to larp a handmaid’s tale.

As a European I find it utterly bewildering that people seriously consider voting for him. But alas I don’t get a say in it.

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Dude there’s a whole cottage industry here that’s dedicated to trying to understand why people vote for him, and the answers are as varied as they are stupid.

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But how else will podcasters, ring light, and audio equipment manufacturers make a living? Who will hear about FACTOR meals and $40 underwear with neon laser rainbow cats?

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I forgot about neon cat, thanks for the nostalgia hit.

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That shit was harrowing at the retirement home I worked at. I only worked during the day, so the worst thing I saw was falls. My fiancé’s brother worked at night, though. The residents would get stir crazy at night. They’d try to “escape,” and they’d be found laying in the nearby hospital’s flower bead. This was in NON-assisted living. Trump definitely reminds me of those residents. They’d end up walking to the hospital because it was the only place they knew how to get to, but they didn’t know why they were walking there. They just wanted to escape. A lot of them expected their old house/ kid’s house.

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There are fake Bus Stations in front of some Nursery Homes with patients for dementia, because when they escape… they wait for the Bus.

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That’s a good one!

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7 points

My grandma did that. She escaped a dozen times, even behind a passcode door.

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11 points

If you watched exclusively right-wing media, you would get heavily edited (and mercifully brief) presentations of Trump, along with hours of talking heads playing him up while demonizing Harris (and of course heavily edited presentations of the Democrat). The issue is not with their choice of Trump but with their choices of what media to consume - the latter choices lead quite logically and inevitably to the former choice.

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The best explanation I’ve come up with after discussing politics at length with them is that they are gaslit. Pure and simple. They just have enough gullibility to see one tiny thing that coincides with something they were taught or otherwise believe. It also explains why they are being scammed so easily on truthsocial.

Trump just has that dirty salesman skill of creating a story with just enough validity or truth and twisting everything to his favor.

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There’s a lot more that we can add to that. Washington politics are so amazingly dirty, they have been for decades, everyone knows it, and Trump is different from other people. He’s actually even dirtier than most career politicians, but he feels different from them.

You also have the problem that some government institutions are corrupt and big business is very corrupt. It’s easier for people to imagine that conspiracy theories are true when they can openly see badness happening around them left unchecked. For example, if I watch on TV or YouTube and I see a court case where the prosecutor, lead detectives, and the judge are all incredibly biased and some of them are bad liars, then I know something is wrong with that courthouse. I might extrapolate and conclude that something is wrong with all courthouses. Which is to say, I’ve become more vulnerable to conspiracy theories because real bad behavior is left unchecked.

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It’s also important not to forget the interpersonal aspect of how their lot get news. A lot of them believe their family and friends’ words more than a published news source. I see an echo to how urban myths got spread in pre-internet days: a neighbor’s cousin’s best friend’s coworker swears the story really happened to them! It must be true!

When a story is emotionally-engaging enough, it will get spread without ever being questioned. Trump’s path to power basically hijacked (and reinforced) that pre-existing tendency.

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Damn, the behavioral variant describes him well. Impulsive, uninhibited, socially unacceptable, listless, and apathetic.

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Careful with yer language there, pardner, lest you force us to export some freedom to your country. We’ve been spoilin’ for a real fight for some time now. Our poors would love nothing better than a meaningful mission, food, housing, and healthcare, and we’ve got all this incredible murder tech that we don’t get to use, all provided by Uncle Sam.

JD Vance is a flawless beauty with wonderful concepts of ideas, and I won’t hear anything different, got it, Sharon?

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Remember: the presidency ages people. How long would he be president?

Oddly, this is something that didn’t seem to happen to Trump. We all know why of course, he didn’t actually do the job of being President.

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Because he doesn’t actually do any work, and only worries about himself.

In contrast, presidents like Obama and Biden age quickly because they’re actually working nonstop, and stressing out about world events.

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That’s why he’s aging so fast right now… he’s working really hard to try and stay out of prison!

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Donald did no work. He only watched TV, golfed, held rallies. He spent more time on the toilet producing whatever it was that took so many flushes than he did on the job.

Donald aged quickly afterwards and especially after the start of his court cases for the numerous crimes.

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I went and checked the source: https://bongino.com/ep-2353-live-with-president-donald-trump

He sits down at timestamp 33:34 and says that remark at timestamp 1:09:12. So he was there for 35 minutes.

The characterisation “a few minutes into their discussion” seems disingenuous.

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Raw Story may be on the same side as us but they are still complete trash. Headline is often a straight-up lie.

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35 minutes doesn’t seem very long for an interview. Is expecting the presidential candidate to remain lucid and coherent for slightly more than a half hour too much to ask?

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No no, that’s not what I’m saying. Just that there’s no need to over dramatise the events in a way that makes your point shakier than it has to be.

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And what I’m saying is that in the context of an interview, 35 minutes is only a few minutes.

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9 points

This entire article is sensationalized. Bongino doesn’t even really seem phased when trump says he’s gotta go.

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that’s less than a job interview though

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Sure. It’s also less than a train ride between Zürich and Bern.

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Among the bizarre topics Trump discussed was his empathy for former producer Harvey Weinstein, saying that he was treated badly after being found guilty on one count of rape and two counts of sexual assault in New York.

He recognizes fellow travelers. Creep.

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Where does the word travelers come from? I have it as an ear worm from a book or something

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Fellow travelers is a phrase used to denote someone who pushes or encourages an ideology or opinion without officially being part of the organization pushing it. It was originally applied to communist sympathizers but is used for other things commonly. A race science believer might be a fellow traveler with nazis but doesn’t have to be a member of the nationalist socialist workers party.

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thanks !

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It was also the title of a show and can be found on Netflix.

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Canterbury tales maybe?

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According to The Free Dictionary, the term fellow travelers “originally applied to people in the early days of the Soviet Union who supported the Russian revolution and the Communist Party but were not members.”

Additional fun fact: the name given to the early Russian satellites, “Sputnik,” has a meaning of “fellow traveler." It was mentioned on that dictionary page, but I ran it through Google Translate just to be sure. (See the third option under “More translations.”)

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