Activists in swing Michigan county are alarmed by Hispanic voters backing Trump despite his anti-immigrant rhetoric

Dan Soza has seen the harsh realities of Donald Trump’s immigration policies up close and so he is alarmed that many Latino voters in Saginaw, Michigan, do not take seriously the former US president’s threats of mass deportations.

As a child welfare officer in Saginaw, Soza places young unaccompanied refugees in foster families and watched the Trump administration’s separation of children from their parents at the Mexican border in 2018 with alarm. He said the cruelty of that policy, and the former president’s threats against refugees legally in the US, should serve as a warning that Trump might do what he says.

“A lot of people who are Latino or Hispanic – whether it be in Saginaw, Michigan, or in the country – when they hear him say those things, they don’t think he’s talking about them,” said Soza.

What really worries me is that people don’t remember their history. This has happened before. We’ve seen mass deportations before and when it happened American citizens were deported.”


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How can Latinos not realize how much Trump hates them? It’s his main topic, how the dirty immigrants are pouring across the border bringing crime and taking American jobs. He and his cronies say it over and over with every speech.

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Because they’re not immigrants anymore, he’s not talking about them, you see, they’re white now.

Irish and Italians did something similar for a while.

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Because they got there legally, he’s not talking about them. Except they don’t realise that they’re voting for a world where border patrol will still harass them based on how they look.

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And by their names and associations in a database somewhere. I bet there are even some cowards that think voting for him will somehow save them. (Spoiler: It won’t, and he’s laughing at these fools helping exterminate them.)

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Kris Kobach removed Kansas voters from the voters’ roll because they had foreign-sounding names (many hispanic). Sure, he got in trouble for it in court, but it was too late to affect the election results. And Trump later appointed him to his election interference commission.

They have the database already. Minorities will be targeted regardless of citizenship.

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I’ve met two immigrants who came in illegally then got citizenship who support Trump, too 😒

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Their Spanish channels are ridiculously overrun with right wing propaganda. My wife is Venezuelan, and it’s crazy the crap her parents believe. And they are sweet, non-hateful people. But they live in a little bubble where all the news fed to them is through a right wing filter, and they don’t believe it because it’s not like they’re watching Fox News or something.

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5 points

@Gerudo summarized it best. Fuck you, got mine.

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My goddamn Guatamalan immigrant coworker yesterday: “Kamala ruined this country, she let in all the illegals and they’re ruining everything. She did nothing to stop them!”

Ignorant and brainwashed… Ffs.

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That’s the key. Your coworker isn’t an illegal. They arrived the legit way (in theory). So, it’s those other dirty people who are ruining the country. Not the “immigrants”, but the illegals.

So, of course Trump wouldn’t deport them, right? The GOP fully appreciates the difference between a Guatemalan who came here and has a valid Green Card versus a Mexican who crossed a river, right? The people who refer to all of Latin America as “Mexican countries” wouldn’t just round up anyone too brown and revoke their status?

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My in-laws came over the border illegally. They busted their ass and are now legal.

They are voting for Trump, again, BECAUSE OF THE ILLEGALS COMING INTO THE COUNTRY.

I shit you not, they love to tell the story of their struggle leaving a war-torn country to get here. Yet, they can’t comprehend actually fixing immigration vs. just build a wall. Fuck you got mine.

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I don’t understand how this can be an interpretation when trump and vance made clear they are indifferent if the immigrants are legal and working. They’ve pushed the point the springfield immigrant community shouldn’t be here, shouldn’t be supported, even if they came legally - it’s the wrong kind of legal. There’s nothing directing which ‘legals’ are good in their policy.

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I tried to explain to him that a citizen is a citizen, their “remigration” plan to “denaturalize” a citizen could be applied to anyone. but naturally then he went on about the other favorite go to for the Reich wing “she wants to take all our guns!”

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Brah…she’s got guns! 🤦‍♀️

Walz is a regular hunter.

No one is coming for the guns. Oy…

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I posted an article a few days ago about a guy who came to the U.S. illegally, got citizenship under Obama, was and complaining to Trump about how he can’t find workers for his restaurant while praising him and doing the full MAGA thing.

Just made me facepalm.

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I swear every day I get reminded just how fucking horrible and selfish a gigantic portion of humanity is. It really sucks. :/

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That guy isn’t just horrible though, he’s super clueless. If Trump does his mass deportation, he’s going to have a lot more trouble finding workers for his restaurant than he does now.

And I would put good money on him having undocumented immigrants working in his kitchen like virtually every other restaurant kitchen in this country.

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Just ask them “Which one let you in?”

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I’m torn. Obviously this is an awful and inhumane policy. On the other hand, if it means Ted Cruz gets deported….

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6 points

Fascists don’t care if you’re here legally or illegally

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4 points

Does he know she’s not even president and the VP does almost nothing?

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43 points

como se dice “leopards eating faces”?

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¡Nunca pensé que los leopardos me comerían la cara!

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Is ‘cara’ face?

Does it take the gender of the person it belongs to or is it always feminine?

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Cara is always feminine. Caro for example means expensive.

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Hell, this history was like 4 years ago when he was president and deporting Hispanic immigrants and still hasn’t shut up about his border wall or being harsh immigrants. It isn’t ancient history or anything.

Do they think that his recent focus on Haitian immigrants means he likes Latino immigrants now?

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Haitians are Latino, because Haiti is part of Latin America. I’m guessing MAGA Latinos don’t care for that fact, however.

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Geographic based definitions from the US government for the census are not the same as cultural self identification.

Why would a French colony that gained independence identify themselves with the former Spanish and Portuguese colony label?

https://zafenou.com/do-haitians-call-themselves-latino/

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Maybe because it’s on Hispaniola?

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“Why would a colony of a Latin country feel like they’re a colony of a Latin country” lol

Then again, I’ve heard a few Brazilians say they’re not latinos.

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Because french, spanish and portuguese are romance languages. You don’t know this?

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Cool. I can come up with a random person’s opinion too. https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2022/9/16/hispanic-haitians-exist-op-ed/

Hatians are Latino because Haitians are Latin American. Just like the inhabitants former British colony of Belize are Latino and the residents of the French colony in South America, French Guiana are Latino. Also, the people in the former Portuguese colony of Brazil are Latino.

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I heard this years ago and it stuck in my brain: Everyone wants to be the last immigrant.

Turns out latinos can be just as short-sighted and selfish as everyone else, because there is no actual difference between humans that look different, despite the hundreds of years of propaganda to the contrary.

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It’s because of racial biases between the different Hispanic groups. They hate Haitians too.

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They act like it’s somehow makes no sense for Latinos to support Trump, but let’s be honest: it makes no sense for anyone to support Trump.

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