Because I hate Electron

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Snap turns your system into a slug at boot time, makes it take forever to shut down as it unmounts fifty memory file systems, scatters files all over the place turning a neat organized system into a pile of shit. I primary run Ubuntu, but I excise snap from it as one of the first orders of business.

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Luckily I use Arch (btw) so every Linux apps under the sun already available on the AUR, so I have 0 reason to use Snap/Flatpak

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4 points

Isn’t firefox strickly snapped in latest ubuntus?

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@0x0 No, Mozilla maintains their own repository. You can delete snap firefox and snap everything else, add the mozilla repository, and install firefox from there. You’ll get a more current version as a side benefit. Instructions found here: askubuntu.com/questions/150203…

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At that point, why still bother with Ubuntu?

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@naeap As long as it remains the easiest distro for me to get from initial setup to mangled the way I want it to work I’ll stick with Ubuntu. It still tends to be more up to date than most other releases save Fedora but I do not care for the Redhat approach at all, they are rather like Windows in trying to force you to do it there way, “thou shall use LDAP and not NIS” for example. I don’t like distros that think I should change my whole organization to suit their needs. Yea at some point I probably will switch to LDAP but will do it on my own terms in my own time not dictated by a distribution vendor. It is rather trivial for me to excise snap from Ubuntu, a lot more work to hack NIS into a system that doesn’t natively support it.

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Look into Incus (formerly LXC) containers or the various i’m gonna replace traditional packaging formats like AppImage, FlatPak and what not.

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Distrobox

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Since Linux tends to be inherently more efficient AND secure than WhenDoze it makes more sense to me to run Linux as the primary OS and put WhenDoze as in the VM. This has the additional benefit of making it easy to restore WhenDoze when it inevitably
shits itself.

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what do you mean you claim “more secure” here? secure in comparison to what, exactly?

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@zwekihoyy If you look at any botnet on the net, it’s going to be 99.999% windows machines, always. If you look at machines compromised by Ransomeware, that happens to Linux but rare, common on Windows. Windows is like a 20 year old asphalt road, patches upon patches.

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I know this isn’t Reddit, but r/peopleliveincities… When 90% of desktop users use Windows, it’s going to both be the most targeted by malware developers and have the highest chance of being operated by someone who doesn’t understand enough about computers to recognize that the shiny calculator app that just popped up after visiting a very legit Nigerian prince’s crowdfunding page probably shouldn’t need admin access.

And speaking of user error, I’m willing to bet that basic security practices like using full disk encryption, SecureBoot, some MAC layer (provided by antivirus on Windows, AppArmor/SELinux on Linux) and regularly applying security updates are way more common over in the Windows land - if I was in a situation where there was one completely randomly selected Windows PC and one also completely randomly selected Linux PC, and my life depended on being able to gain access to either of them (some kind of really messed up Saw trap? idk), I would definitely bet my life on the Linux one being misconfigured.

Don’t get me wrong, Linux can make for a very secure and private OS, but most installs most definitely cannot be described as such - just look at the popularity of random unverified PPAs on Ubuntu derivatives or AUR packages on Arch.

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this idea lies on a complete misunderstanding. Linux, without extensive hardening efforts, is ootb much more insecure than either Windows or macos

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I’m thinking of using VM but I’m hoping to find a better solution

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Short: Yes, of course. Long: Well, this is really a long answer, depending on your needs…

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I’m only needed to run any apps that has bloat/redundant dependencies so I can remove it anytime I want without screwing up my entire OS ;D

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Maybe check out nix. It can be installed on any distro and if you install (temporarily but cached) the app trough nix shell you can then just clean the dependencies with nix store gc.

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