In the twelve-month stretch from October 2022 through September 2023, 30,000 people died while waiting for federal disability determinations, according to Social Security Commissioner Martin O’Malley. Martha asked Harris what she would do as president for people, like herself, who are waiting for disability decisions while in desperate need of health insurance.
Delays in those decisions, driven in part by understaffing and a Covid-related rise in disability rates, have driven the typical wait time from four months in 2019 to seven months today, often coupled with the need to appeal an initial rejection, which can take years. The processing times represent a mounting crisis for the more than 1 million Americans who apply for disability in a given year.
The entire disability system in the USA is built to hurt people, top to bottom. It forces people to live in perpetual poverty and often struggle to afford the help they need for their disabilities. They can’t get married without their benefits being cut, because now they have family who is expected to care for them.
This is just another symptom of a system designed to prevent as many people from collecting benefits as possible. If someone dies while waiting, that’s no money that needs to be paid out. It’s a “win” in terms of the budget, because it’s reducing costs by denying benefits.
The USA is truly run by fucking vultures, and while the Republican party is responsible for most of the horrific messes, there are a not-insignificant number of congresspeople who are “Democrats” but may as well be Republican, like Joe Manchin.
It really pisses me off that we treat people like this. I wish this country actually believed everyone is entitled to dignity and worked to provide it along with a basic standard of living. We easily could. But we don’t because billionaires need their tax cuts and corporations need their handouts.
are “Democrats” but may as well be Republican, like Joe Manchin.
IIRC, Manchin previously announced that he isn’t going to run again.
If he weren’t fairly close to Republican positions, he probably wouldn’t even be in office now; during the time that he was in politics, West Virginia shifted from being a very blue state to being a very red state. I’d argue that that’s mostly a function of party realignment than changes inside West Virginia, but it doesn’t matter much from the standpoint of a politician’s electoral viability, as the brand still has an impact.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Manchin
As of 2024, Manchin represents what is by a significant margin the most Republican-leaning constituency of any Democrat or independent in Congress.
Manchin has called himself a “centrist, moderate, conservative Democrat” and is generally regarded as the Senate Democratic caucus’ most conservative member.
Hmm. Apparently – hadn’t heard of this until reading this – he’s also no longer a Democrat, re-registered as an independent. The brand probably became too much of a political liability.
He became the state’s senior U.S. senator when Jay Rockefeller left office in 2015 and was West Virginia’s only congressional Democrat until 2024, when he registered as an independent.
EDIT: And it’s not just that all West Virginia’s federal representatives except him are Republican. Here’s the current state Senate and House composition, to give an idea, red showing Republican and blue Democrat. Not easy to be elected as a Democrat in West Virginia in 2024.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_Legislature
EDIT2: Yeah, he announced back in 2023 that he’s not seeking re-election.
So a bit more info on this … if you look up the average of the demographic that tries to game a system it usually sits somewhere between 2-5%. Unfortunately the powers that be have decided that even tho 95-98% of people follow the rules, everyone has to be vetted (and often denied) so the ‘bad’ ones can be filtered out.
Untold b/trillions are spent doing this, far surpassing what it would cost to just have basic vetting where people in need would be able to access funds/services within 30 days.
Edit to add – This is ONLY good for individuals. All corporate entities should be held to a minimum wait of 6 months to be completely vetted.
This is one reason im a basic income, universal healthcare, etc person. I have found the beuracracy that is put in place can usually be navigated by the gamers because that is what they do but it blocks the folk that could use the help and if they got it sometimes can be productive and even pull themselves out of the situation.
That’s because our government, from top to bottom, has a punishment-based attitude when it comes to any and all violations of any rules or laws. And instead of precision strikes, they use flamethrowers.
This usually bears out in large workplaces too, most of the employee mistakes are genuine, about 5% are deliberately done by psychopaths. I mean real mistakes like HIPAA violations, not clocking in late from lunch.
Yup. Afaik those numbers run across the board, although I have seen an insanely low number for one Ontario social program a few years back (like 0.68% found to be scamming).
I’d be interested in seeing that study or report. I wonder if they identified likely factors.
I managed to get on SSDI after fucking years, before Covid, and guess what, I still can’t afford anything beyond roach motel / slum lord housing (which of course have bad water and mold and dust, and because these places don’t have a 3x rent as income requirement)…
…, and I can’t actually access medical care, as I can’t afford a car and public transit is basically non existent, and even if I could, it would take me a year of referrals and tens of thousands of dollars to access the PT care I need.
Its literally 100x easier and less expensive for me to just learn the PT I need to do from reading studies and watching youtube videos from actually qualified people.
If you get on SSDI, if you make more than about 1500 dollars a month, for 9 consecutive months, then your SSDI benefits go away, poof, all gone, until you have 0 income for another 9 months.
During which time you will be evicted and likely die on the streets as a disabled homeless person.
Yet, somehow, (from what I understand, anyway) you’re allowed to make money from investments and other type of “non-worked” income while on SSDI. I’m pretty damn sure that $1500 limit is only for worked income. It’s almost like it’s tailor-made for rich people to be able to function on it (because they already had investments when they became disabled) and to just screw the living hell out of everyone else.
Yep!
No SSDI Limits on Unearned Income and Assets
A person collecting SSDI can have any amount of assets and any amount of income from investments, interest, or a spouse’s income. These are all types of “unearned income.” You (and your spouse, if you’re married) can have an unlimited amount of unearned income. Unearned income includes:
interest income dividends rent from property you don't actively manage income that your spouse earns pensions state disability payments unemployment benefits, and cash or gifts from friends and relatives.Any type of gift, even an expensive gift, doesn’t affect SSDI benefits at all. You don’t have to report gifts to the SSA as income.
This is the exact and precise opposite of how you’d think it would work if you actually wanted to use policies to nudge the disabled toward finding some gainful employment but always have a backstop in case issues flair up again, and not give out benefits to those who don’t actually need them.
But no one cares.
Until Democrats fall out of love with means testing I don’t see this changing quickly or at all, unfortunately. But try getting people to accept that means testing almost always costs more than just making the programs open with few/no strings attached and watch the meltdowns start.
Republicans aren’t getting rid of means testing and Democratic leadership for the most part doesn’t want to. Also, means testing for welfare was a huge part of Democratic campaigning in the 90s and has been embraced within the party since then.
Any evidence that means testing is popular among the Democratic party these days? The '90s is a long time ago now.
I am medically qualified for disability but instead I have a job and work just enough hours to pay rent because that’s easier than jumping through all the hoops to get disability
Same. It’s insane some of these limits and stupid amounts of outdated red tape.
